"Unapproving" isn't something Valve does. The "unapproved" plugin itself doesn't do anything illegal, as far as I can understand it, only the combination with another plugin does something illegal. So, when my combination with another plugin was legal, why am I banned?
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]> wrote: > If that was in reply to me. I never said its not fine to switch to a knife > owned by the player. But if you use an unapproved plugin that allows you to > script a plugin that makes a player receive a weapon they do not own then > its a problem. If you didn't do any of this then its a false ban. > > I am not sure the reason for using that unapproved plugin by its own as it > doesn't do anything. > If you used that unapproved plugin and wrote a code that gives butterfly > knife instead of default or from their inventory then you are breaking > valve's policy. > > On 27 January 2016 at 13:44, iNilo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *Jul 10, 2015; 7:51pm Vitaliy Genkin Vitaliy Genkin* >> >> >>> (4) Assuming that I’m not granting an item that a player does not own: >>> -Is it ok to have a “remove all weapons”/”hide knife” function on a >>> server? >>> -Is it ok to have a “knife drop”/”knife switch” function that allows a >>> player to drop their knife (that they own) so another player can pick it up? >>> *Both of these functions are fine. There are some game modes where it >>> makes sense to have unarmed players (e.g., surf), and in a trading server >>> being able give a player your knife to inspect is fine too. In general, >>> letting players use what they own in a new way isn’t a problem.* >> >> >> >> *this claims its fine to switch knives with a player, just as long as A >> player HAS the item in HIS inventory, so if its a knife that exists in an >> inventory, it should be fine.* >> >> >> *(source >> http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tc9684.html#a9748 >> <http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tc9684.html#a9748>)* >> >> >> >> 2016-01-27 14:30 GMT+01:00 Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]>: >> >>> LANI: I am not here to argue but that unapproved plugin can be used in a >>> way that it could give weapons to players that they do not own. You can >>> write a plugin to use with that unapproved plugin to give butterfly knife >>> to people that don't own it. I don't think SM dev unapprove plugins for no >>> reason. >>> >>> On 27 January 2016 at 13:24, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Nomaan: Please read again what I wrote. We DID NOT use a plugin that >>>> gives a skin to a player that he does not own. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:22 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They ban in waves, nothing stops them to just generate a new token >>>>> under a new account and swap it with the banned one. >>>>> >>>>> They’ll be fine for the next 3-4 months and then do it again. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It doesn’t really cost much to get a csgo account and a phone number. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BR, >>>>> >>>>> Niko >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Absurd >>>>> Minds >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2016 14:19 >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Anyone else hit with a GSLT ban? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure that you can trust that valve's method of banning is >>>>> effective and error-free. If others in this thread are too be trusted, >>>>> there are some servers still running !ws and !knife that are still up. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 27, 2016 8:10 AM, "Nomaan Ahmad" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It seems you are confused. There are 2 plugins... well one is an >>>>> extension. >>>>> >>>>> Always Weapon Skins by Neuro Toxin: >>>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2112938 >>>>> >>>>> GiveNamedItem Econ by Drifter: >>>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=236199 >>>>> >>>>> I use the Always Weapons Skin. It does require dhooks and my server >>>>> didn't get any bans. I also doubt you would get banned for the extension. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 January 2016 at 13:00, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Nomaan: Did you have an old Always Weapon Plugin installed, that needs >>>>> to have another plugin installed, named "givenameditem.smx"? If not, an >>>>> old >>>>> version with this dependency could still be the problem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I use Always Weapons plugin on my server and they never got banned so >>>>> it isn't that. There might be legit bans with some false bans too. If they >>>>> are solely relying on player reports then this system is heavily flawed. >>>>> Server operator know more about prohibited plugins than players as they >>>>> always ask for weapon that aren't in their inventory. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 January 2016 at 12:49, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Max: We run various servers with different plugins like DM, AIM, Multi >>>>> 1v1, Retakes, BRush, ... Non of the server allowed players to get a weapon >>>>> they did not own. We used a plugin called "Always weapon plugin" that >>>>> allows players to have THEIR OWN AK skin when playing CT for example >>>>> (Imagine a FFA DM server). An old version of this plugin had a dependency >>>>> for a plugin called "GiveNameItemEx". This very plugin could build >>>>> the basis for others plugins that would allow for Knife/Skinchange to >>>>> skins >>>>> the players doesn't own. I repeat: WE did not use those other plugins, we >>>>> hadn't installed them or anything, but we had installed this "base" plugin >>>>> that could be used IN COMBINATION ONLY with OTHER, not installed plugins, >>>>> for forbidden skinchanges. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Marc, so your server has absolutely no plugins but still got banned? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Marc Däumichen < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My schnitzeltreff surf servers also got hit, and i dont use any >>>>> plugins since the announcement. >>>>> >>>>> First, they ban complete IPs and fuck up providers, and now this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Im probaly out of this... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>>> This >>>>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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