If that was in reply to me. I never said its not fine to switch to a knife owned by the player. But if you use an unapproved plugin that allows you to script a plugin that makes a player receive a weapon they do not own then its a problem. If you didn't do any of this then its a false ban.
I am not sure the reason for using that unapproved plugin by its own as it doesn't do anything. If you used that unapproved plugin and wrote a code that gives butterfly knife instead of default or from their inventory then you are breaking valve's policy. On 27 January 2016 at 13:44, iNilo <[email protected]> wrote: > *Jul 10, 2015; 7:51pm Vitaliy Genkin Vitaliy Genkin* > > >> (4) Assuming that I’m not granting an item that a player does not own: >> -Is it ok to have a “remove all weapons”/”hide knife” function on a >> server? >> -Is it ok to have a “knife drop”/”knife switch” function that allows a >> player to drop their knife (that they own) so another player can pick it up? >> *Both of these functions are fine. There are some game modes where it >> makes sense to have unarmed players (e.g., surf), and in a trading server >> being able give a player your knife to inspect is fine too. In general, >> letting players use what they own in a new way isn’t a problem.* > > > > *this claims its fine to switch knives with a player, just as long as A > player HAS the item in HIS inventory, so if its a knife that exists in an > inventory, it should be fine.* > > > *(source > http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tc9684.html#a9748 > <http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tc9684.html#a9748>)* > > > > 2016-01-27 14:30 GMT+01:00 Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]>: > >> LANI: I am not here to argue but that unapproved plugin can be used in a >> way that it could give weapons to players that they do not own. You can >> write a plugin to use with that unapproved plugin to give butterfly knife >> to people that don't own it. I don't think SM dev unapprove plugins for no >> reason. >> >> On 27 January 2016 at 13:24, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Nomaan: Please read again what I wrote. We DID NOT use a plugin that >>> gives a skin to a player that he does not own. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:22 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> They ban in waves, nothing stops them to just generate a new token >>>> under a new account and swap it with the banned one. >>>> >>>> They’ll be fine for the next 3-4 months and then do it again. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It doesn’t really cost much to get a csgo account and a phone number. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> BR, >>>> >>>> Niko >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Absurd >>>> Minds >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2016 14:19 >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Anyone else hit with a GSLT ban? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not sure that you can trust that valve's method of banning is >>>> effective and error-free. If others in this thread are too be trusted, >>>> there are some servers still running !ws and !knife that are still up. >>>> >>>> On Jan 27, 2016 8:10 AM, "Nomaan Ahmad" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> It seems you are confused. There are 2 plugins... well one is an >>>> extension. >>>> >>>> Always Weapon Skins by Neuro Toxin: >>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2112938 >>>> >>>> GiveNamedItem Econ by Drifter: >>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=236199 >>>> >>>> I use the Always Weapons Skin. It does require dhooks and my server >>>> didn't get any bans. I also doubt you would get banned for the extension. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 January 2016 at 13:00, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nomaan: Did you have an old Always Weapon Plugin installed, that needs >>>> to have another plugin installed, named "givenameditem.smx"? If not, an old >>>> version with this dependency could still be the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Nomaan Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I use Always Weapons plugin on my server and they never got banned so >>>> it isn't that. There might be legit bans with some false bans too. If they >>>> are solely relying on player reports then this system is heavily flawed. >>>> Server operator know more about prohibited plugins than players as they >>>> always ask for weapon that aren't in their inventory. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 January 2016 at 12:49, Team LANII <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Max: We run various servers with different plugins like DM, AIM, Multi >>>> 1v1, Retakes, BRush, ... Non of the server allowed players to get a weapon >>>> they did not own. We used a plugin called "Always weapon plugin" that >>>> allows players to have THEIR OWN AK skin when playing CT for example >>>> (Imagine a FFA DM server). An old version of this plugin had a dependency >>>> for a plugin called "GiveNameItemEx". This very plugin could build >>>> the basis for others plugins that would allow for Knife/Skinchange to skins >>>> the players doesn't own. I repeat: WE did not use those other plugins, we >>>> hadn't installed them or anything, but we had installed this "base" plugin >>>> that could be used IN COMBINATION ONLY with OTHER, not installed plugins, >>>> for forbidden skinchanges. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Max Krivanek <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Marc, so your server has absolutely no plugins but still got banned? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Marc Däumichen < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> My schnitzeltreff surf servers also got hit, and i dont use any plugins >>>> since the announcement. >>>> >>>> First, they ban complete IPs and fuck up providers, and now this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Im probaly out of this... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>> This >>>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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