Nope. There's always a next way to do it.

On 24.02.2016 21:38, Bakugo wrote:
Wouldn't just removing the m_nFallbackPaintKit entprop get rid of skin plugins for good? Why is it even there in the first place?

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Keep in mind there are no "API calls". This keeps coming up.
    Source only offers a very basic plugin interface which metamod
    barely depends on (and doesn't need to).
    All modifications are done by memory hacking, and there is no way
    to prevent this, and any measurement trying to do so would only do
    more harm than good.
    This is why GSLT tokens are a step in the right direction. Though
    the lack of transparency and seemingly random bans make this
    pretty discouraging.

    On 24.02.2016 12:28, Imre Mamedov wrote:
    Funny how i stopped hosting servers after they told us about
    GSLT. Seeing how much drama it have created i do not even want to
    touch CSGO servers anymore. Host server and be worried if you did
    something wrong or not and be punished with permanent ban it
    ridiculous to say the least. In my opinion valve should remove
    all of those API commands/calls all together so people could not
    access em and stop with all those bans. Also bans should in my
    opinion last maybe a week at max with a reason what you did wrong
    so you could remove the plugin or whatever and keep hosting. A
    warning would be nice too so you know if you are doing something
    wrong and can correct self before ban goes live. Current state
    and the amount of information we have/get is just dumb.


    Täna, 12:17 Andre Müller <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]> Kirjutas:
    Just stop hosting cs:go. You'll see that your stress level will
    be reduced ;-)

    Max Krivanek <[email protected] > schrieb am Mi., 24. Feb. 2016 um
    11:14 Uhr:

        These GSLT bans are getting really annoying.  The lack of any
        transparency on Valve's part and perma-banning make this a
        system I wouldn't touch again.

        Its not worth running servers where you don't have any clue
        what you got banned for.  This isn't like clients where there
        is an expectation for them to be unmodified.  Community
        servers are generally modified to give the players something
        different to experience.  But we don't know what API calls
        magically get us banned.

        On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:06 AM, Tom Devonport
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        > wrote:

            Seems to be new bans only. Friend of mine got banned,
            perm GSLT ban, 11 days global
            Cooldown. Wondering if its really needed since its just
            going to push people into making new accounts.

            On 24 Feb 2016 7:50 a.m., "Maxence Sartiaux"
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                I had my GSLT banned on the first wave, all of my
                three accounts was banned in the same time, no
                cooldown for me actually i don't think it's
                retroactive, at least i hope it's not :D

                
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                *From: *"Matthias \"InstantMuffin\" Kollek"
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
                *To: *"csgo servers"
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]> >
                *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:56:35 AM
                *Subject: *Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] – User
                accounts will also receive a temporary cooldown when
                their Game Server Login Token gets banned.

                I guess the mailing list would explode if this were
                the case.
                Close your eyes, plug your ears, duck and wait 5 more
                minutes to be extra certain. ;)

                On 24.02.2016 02:53, Ian wrote:

                    My main question, will this be done retroactively
                    to users who have gotten their servers banned, or
                    only to users who get their servers banned from
                    here on out?

                    Also (@ Ido and Vitaliy), will my email ever get
                    responded to regarding my GSLT ban? I've followed
                    up several times will full information and gotten
                    no response.

                    On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Matthias
                    "InstantMuffin" Kollek <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                        While I appreciate any further advancements
                        in punishment and banning abusive community
                        servers, I find any penalties concerning with
                        the current lack of transparency.


                        On 24.02.2016 01:56, Absurd Minds wrote:

                            To be it sounds like your account will
                            receive a griefing ban from matchmaking,
                            or something.

                            On Feb 23, 2016 7:29 PM, "Kevin C"
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                                Can we get some further clarification
                                on this please?

                                Does this replace the permanent ban
                                on GSLT accounts?

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