How, exactly? Servers can't just make unmodded clients display whatever they want if Valve doesn't provide a way to do it. Remember what happened to player attachments in tf2?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < [email protected]> wrote: > Nope. There's always a next way to do it. > > On 24.02.2016 21:38, Bakugo wrote: > > Wouldn't just removing the m_nFallbackPaintKit entprop get rid of skin > plugins for good? Why is it even there in the first place? > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < > <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: > >> Keep in mind there are no "API calls". This keeps coming up. Source only >> offers a very basic plugin interface which metamod barely depends on (and >> doesn't need to). >> All modifications are done by memory hacking, and there is no way to >> prevent this, and any measurement trying to do so would only do more harm >> than good. >> This is why GSLT tokens are a step in the right direction. Though the >> lack of transparency and seemingly random bans make this pretty >> discouraging. >> >> On 24.02.2016 12:28, Imre Mamedov wrote: >> >> Funny how i stopped hosting servers after they told us about GSLT. Seeing >> how much drama it have created i do not even want to touch CSGO servers >> anymore. Host server and be worried if you did something wrong or not and >> be punished with permanent ban it ridiculous to say the least. In my >> opinion valve should remove all of those API commands/calls all together so >> people could not access em and stop with all those bans. Also bans should >> in my opinion last maybe a week at max with a reason what you did wrong so >> you could remove the plugin or whatever and keep hosting. A warning would >> be nice too so you know if you are doing something wrong and can correct >> self before ban goes live. Current state and the amount of information we >> have/get is just dumb. >> >> >> Täna, 12:17 Andre Müller <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> Kirjutas: >> Just stop hosting cs:go. You'll see that your stress level will be >> reduced ;-) >> >> Max Krivanek <[email protected] > schrieb am Mi., 24. Feb. 2016 um 11:14 Uhr: >> >> These GSLT bans are getting really annoying. The lack of any >> transparency on Valve's part and perma-banning make this a system I >> wouldn't touch again. >> >> Its not worth running servers where you don't have any clue what you got >> banned for. This isn't like clients where there is an expectation for them >> to be unmodified. Community servers are generally modified to give the >> players something different to experience. But we don't know what API >> calls magically get us banned. >> >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:06 AM, Tom Devonport < >> <[email protected]>[email protected] > wrote: >> >> Seems to be new bans only. Friend of mine got banned, perm GSLT ban, 11 >> days global >> Cooldown. Wondering if its really needed since its just going to push >> people into making new accounts. >> On 24 Feb 2016 7:50 a.m., "Maxence Sartiaux" < <[email protected]> >> [email protected] > wrote: >> >> I had my GSLT banned on the first wave, all of my three accounts was >> banned in the same time, no cooldown for me actually i don't think it's >> retroactive, at least i hope it's not :D >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Matthias \"InstantMuffin\" Kollek" < <[email protected]> >> [email protected] > >> *To: *"csgo servers" < <[email protected]> >> [email protected] > >> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:56:35 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [Csgo_servers] [ GSLT ] – User accounts will also receive >> a temporary cooldown when their Game Server Login Token gets banned. >> >> I guess the mailing list would explode if this were the case. >> Close your eyes, plug your ears, duck and wait 5 more minutes to be extra >> certain. ;) >> >> On 24.02.2016 02:53, Ian wrote: >> >> My main question, will this be done retroactively to users who have >> gotten their servers banned, or only to users who get their servers banned >> from here on out? >> >> Also (@ Ido and Vitaliy), will my email ever get responded to regarding >> my GSLT ban? I've followed up several times will full information and >> gotten no response. >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < >> <[email protected]>[email protected] > wrote: >> >> While I appreciate any further advancements in punishment and banning >> abusive community servers, I find any penalties concerning with the current >> lack of transparency. >> >> >> On 24.02.2016 01:56, Absurd Minds wrote: >> >> To be it sounds like your account will receive a griefing ban from >> matchmaking, or something. >> On Feb 23, 2016 7:29 PM, "Kevin C" < <[email protected]> >> [email protected] > wrote: >> >> Can we get some further clarification on this please? >> >> Does this replace the permanent ban on GSLT accounts? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> <[email protected]>[email protected] >> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> <https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing >> [email protected]https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing > [email protected]https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers > > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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