@Larcen III
Can you provide us with more information about alternative master servers.
This is maybe useful for some communities.

@Don: you're a troll.

Don Park <[email protected]> schrieb am Mo., 29. Feb. 2016 06:32:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Sorry then.  Since you mentioned you were new to the mailing list and yet
> have been running CSGO servers for a while I'd figured I'd give you all the
> official information (these are confirmed real information) Valve has given
> us, as many of the other information made available are simply speculations
> depending on how they have operated previously.  They were there simply
> because (you receiving information through an alternative mean) you may
> have missed it and may have overlooked confirmed information directly from
> Valve.  Again, the information provided are 100% from Valve and the CSGO
> Devs, therefore they are everything anyone has.  There really is no new
> information directly from Valve besides for the ones I present to you in my
> previous email.  We all are operating within the same parameters as the
> information provided by Valve.
>
> The reason why I recommended a managed CSGO server instance is mostly
> because (as you said, you don't follow the development as much) that
> company is basically paid to keep you up to date on new developments and
> make sure your server is up and running properly.  Therefore, you probably
> would not have missed the GLST email or any additional information that, I
> again, provided to you in my earlier information.  As there are many people
> who are running CSGO servers, it's a bit hard for Valve to hit every single
> individual running a server.  Therefore, they tried what they could to
> announce the GLST information to as many people as possible.
>
> That information is all we have.  There have been many people in the past
> who have messaged on this email list requesting for information regarding
> why they've been banned and such and no-one (from what I can tell) have
> received any response from Valve.  All we have gotten was an email from
> Valve saying "all bans were properly done, there are no false bans"
> (paraphrasing).  The reason why I recommend you open a ticket with Valve
> Support is because I think you'd have a better chance at a personalized
> answer pinpointing specifically what the error was if you talk to them
> directly instead of asking them over this email list (which is mostly used
> for announcements and addressing the CSGO server operating community, not
> one-on-one interactions).
>
> I get it that you're frustrated, however I tried the best I can to provide
> you with all the official information Valve has given us and the best and
> most up-to-date (and detailed) information I have available that was
> received directly from Valve.  Again, mostly because operating over someone
> else's assumptions or speculations can actually hurt you rather than help
> you (even if they were intended to be helpful).  If you've already gone
> over all the information previously provided and you don't find yourself in
> violation within any of those guidelines, then I would suggest contacting
> Valve in a slightly more polite manner than in your email stated before and
> ask them for a proper clarification regarding the GLST ban.  Besides that,
> I don't see how else you can get a direct personalized response from Valve
> regarding your case with them as they haven't been responding to anyone
> else's personalized requests on this email list.
>
> This is your problem, not my problem.  I simply responded with all that
> information before to make sure you covered the basic groundworks and
> hopefully didn't miss anything, as in IT and server management the most
> common issue usually has the simplest fix.
>
> - Don
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Larcen III <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Don,
>>
>> Your words are not really helpful at all, sorry to break it to you.
>>
>> I know how to make gmail filters, thanks, whatever.
>>
>> Buy a managed server? Are you kidding me? I own a server, and it hosts a
>> rust server, teamspeak server, and my small business website for $29 /
>> month and has two 3TB hdds.
>>
>> I play CSGO everyday in MM but our group has this community server for
>> bi-monthly community parties. (That's every other month)
>>
>> Cron autoupdates CSGO, as I mentioned before, etc.
>>
>> Why is gods name would I PAY PER SLOT on a shitty oversold "Managed"
>> gameserver.
>>
>> I want to load various gametypes, and large map lists and we just have
>> fun at it.
>>
>> This isn't a structured - REQUIRED UPTIME service that qualifies for a
>> MANAGED SERVICE.
>>
>> It's a GAME.
>>
>> I'm co-locating my server so I got plenty of extra resources. i7 16GB ram
>> etc.
>>
>> AGAIN:
>>
>> To blanket all server ops using GLST's why not give a warning, or three
>> strikes in order to make sure they get the message.
>>
>> You mentioned OCT. 13th GSLT notice went out.
>>
>> WHERE? HERE IN THIS MAILING LIST I JUST SIGNED UP FOR THIS WEEK?
>>
>> Srs, a braindead halfwit would know to look at the number of users that
>> created one or more GSLT's vs the number of subscribers to this list and
>> know that they are nowhere NEAR equal.
>>
>> And also there's plebs like Killah who subscribe to this mailing list
>> that aren't even server ops.
>>
>> Don, from what I can tell, all you are is in the way of getting a
>> response from someone at Valve, who can give me REAL answers.
>>
>> Don't tell me this is the wrong place to dispute my ban, Steam Support
>> isn't even responding back, they said if it wasn't a VAC ban then they
>> couldn't help, and if it was a VAC ban, then they couldn't help. WTF  kind
>> of circular logic is that? It's SUPER ANNOYING.
>>
>> I was also told to buy another copy of csgo on another account and a new
>> phone number and spend some money to make sure my account was legit or some
>> bull crap and that's GOT to be against the rules somewhere. Why would I do
>> that to get banned again? FOR NO REASON.
>>
>> I GOT GSLT BANNED - FOR NO REASON.
>>
>> I FOLLOWED THE RULES - GOT BANNED ANYWAY.
>>
>> I see people going to alternate master servers ETC and I see why, this is
>> maximum idiocy and I'm not going to sit still while I get shit on by valve.
>> I'm sure as hell not going to spend more money with a company that cares so
>> little about their own community.
>>
>> If you can't tell, I'm pretty upset, I'm upset because this is wrong, and
>> unfair, unjust, and I'm not going to stop making youtube videos about it,
>> blog posts about it, support tickets about it, emails about it, and calling
>> valve about it. I will make sure that valve understands that what they did
>> to me wasn't cool. It was unjustified, poorly executed, and poorly followed
>> up on, and everyone else that will listen. What it would have cost me to
>> rebuy csgo, I will spend on twitch streamers as donations to build
>> awareness of this issue that is attacking the heart of the founding
>> community.
>>
>> It shouldn't take all this noise to get a severe issue noticed.
>>
>> I'm not alone, many others were also wrongfully GSLT banned, even if they
>> had never even generated a token.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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