He is not working for Valve. I have no idea why he is writing as if he were (its really funny tho). This is just some random person and he is just guessing as far as I understand.
Den fre 3 jan. 2020 kl 05:52 skrev Daniel Sensenbringer < headad...@warmupserver.net>: > Hi Miguel, > > > > Thanks for your answer. But I am asking myself one question according to > your answer. Who are you, that you are able to answer this question? Are > you from Valve? Your email doesn’t look like: mig...@hotmail.dk > > > > In case you are not from Valve: Why do you know that a server sided > skinchanger, that swaps the equipped model to the standard model is allowed? > > > > Would be awesome if someone from Valve could answer this question. We need > to be sure. > > > > Best Regards > > daniels > > > > > > *Von:* CS:GO Dedicated Server Mailing List [mailto:nob...@simplelists.com] > > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 3. Januar 2020 01:41 > *An:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com > *Betreff:* Daily digest for csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > *(Previous discussion continued)* > > Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940175> - > Miguel > Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 08:43 UTC)* > > *(missing)* > > *(missing)* > > *(missing)* > > *(missing)* > > *(missing)* > > Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940641> - Miguel Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 > 12:11 UTC)* > > SV: [Csgo_servers] Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940177> - Christopher Szabo *(02 Jan 2020 > 08:45 UTC)* > > Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940213> - > Miguel > Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 09:12 UTC)* > > Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12940775> - > Miguel > Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 12:55 UTC)* > > Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models <#m_3219915159434665113_msg12941449> - > Miguel > Petersen *(02 Jan 2020 14:55 UTC)* > ------------------------------ > > Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <http://list.valvesoftware.com/csgo_servers/msg/12940175> by Miguel > Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> *(02 Jan 2020 08:43 UTC)* > Reply to list > <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com?Subject=Re:%20[VALVE]Disable%20new%20playermodels&References=%3cdb8pr10mb34661ab481b4541490e5023acb...@db8pr10mb3466.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e%3cdb8p195mb06140bf5426506400d1fb54cbe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e> > > Hi Chris, > > > I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character > models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server. > > Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > > "It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to > correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official > Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > > Have a good day! > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo < > sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > > Hi > > I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners. > Its says its not allowed to: > > "Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own > CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player > models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them > with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it > in-fact allowed? > > / Chris > ------------------------------ > > Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <http://list.valvesoftware.com/csgo_servers/msg/12940641> by Miguel > Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> *(02 Jan 2020 12:11 UTC)* > Reply to list > <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com?Subject=Re:%20Sv:%20Re:[VALVE]%20Disable%20new%20playermodels&References=%3cdb8pr10mb34661ab481b4541490e5023acb...@db8pr10mb3466.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb06140bf5426506400d1fb54cbe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb0614c64e3438d628b40ff218be...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cam0pr10mb25786a76cdca4979b24bd37fcb...@am0pr10mb2578.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb0614ceeee44db2484a9d5474be...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cam0pr10mb2578e44fd4f76c60a42660e7cb...@am0pr10mb2578.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cam0pr10mb2578b58e808c0e3c6eb3bbc3cb...@am0pr10mb2578.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e%3cdb8p195mb0614fd7f6c08ecb9b83dda20be...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e> > > I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins. > > > Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, but > I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates new steam > accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. (Thats a part of > the skin-changer plugin). > > It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your perspective > thats it's not okay. > > But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. And > I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow the > guidelines. > > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 2. januar 2020 12:26 > Til: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Emne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > Also, I wasnt taking about a client skin changer, I was asking about > giving players weapon skins/gloves that they dont currently own, on a > comunity server via sourcemod plugins. > > Is that allowed now? Because its like this, Ive been running a CS > community for over 15 years now. We are following the guidelines and always > have. But we compete against other servers that dont follow the > guidelines... > > They offer their players cool Valve skins the players dont own, and they > never get token banned. > > This means that we follow the rules and we lose players and they break the > rules and gain players without consequences. This is not fair at all. > > I dont think its fair having rules that you dont enforce because the good > guys gets screwed. 😕 > > Med vänliga hälsningar / Best regards > > Christopher Szabo | Chairman of the Board > > Skype: szaabo85 | E-mail: sza...@hotmail.com > > Website: BrutalCS.nu | Facebook: Facebook.com/BrutalCS > > Från: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> > Skickat: den 2 januari 2020 12:20 > Till: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Ämne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > I dont understand. It clearly states: > > To be clear, the services that should not be offered on a _community > server_ include (but are not limited to): > > – Allowing players to claim temporary ownership of CS:GO items that are > not in their inventory (Weapon skins, knives, etc.). > > – Providing a falsified competitive skill group and/or profile rank status > or scoreboard coin (e.g., Operation Challenge Coins). > > – Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their > own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile. > > For clarification, it is also not acceptable to provide players with > custom models and/or weapon skins that do not exist in the CS:GO ecosystem. > > You should probably reword the Valve guidelines then. Also the guidelines > now states that we are not allowed to use ANY custom skins. Many community > servers are using mods like zombie etc that are using custom skins. > > And they are banned according to the above rules. > > Med vänliga hälsningar / Best regards > > Christopher Szabo | Chairman of the Board > > Skype: szaabo85 | E-mail: sza...@hotmail.com > > Website: BrutalCS.nu | Facebook: Facebook.com/BrutalCS > > Från: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Skickat: den 2 januari 2020 10:06 > Till: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> > Ämne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > Skin Changer is not allowed and can cause your account to be banned from > hosting servers. > > You can checkout this post here: > https://esportsobserver.com/csgo-ban-character-models/ > > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:51 > Til: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Emne: SV: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > What about skin plugins. Are they allows to then? > > > > Skickat från min Xperia-smartphone från Sony > > > > ---- Miguel Petersen skrev ---- > > Hi Chris, > > > I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character > models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server. > > Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > > "It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to > correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official > Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > > Have a good day! > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo < > sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > > Hi > > I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners. > Its says its not allowed to: > > "Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own > CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player > models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them > with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it > in-fact allowed? > > / Chris > ------------------------------ > > SV: [Csgo_servers] Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <http://list.valvesoftware.com/csgo_servers/msg/12940177> by Christopher > Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> *(02 Jan 2020 08:45 UTC)* > Reply to list > <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com?Subject=Re:%20SV:[Csgo_servers]%20Re:%20[VALVE]%20Disable%20new%20playermodels&References=%3cdb8pr10mb34661ab481b4541490e5023acb...@db8pr10mb3466.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb06140bf5426506400d1fb54cbe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e%3cam0pr10mb2578f4bac37a8481a83ecae7cb...@am0pr10mb2578.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e> > > What about community servers? > > > > Skickat från min Xperia-smartphone från Sony > > > > ---- Miguel Petersen skrev ---- > > Hi Chris, > > > I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character > models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server. > > Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > > "It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to > correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official > Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > > Have a good day! > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo < > sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > > Hi > > I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners. > Its says its not allowed to: > > "Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own > CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player > models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them > with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it > in-fact allowed? > > / Chris > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > ------------------------------ > > Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <http://list.valvesoftware.com/csgo_servers/msg/12940213> by Miguel > Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> *(02 Jan 2020 09:12 UTC)* > Reply to list > <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com?Subject=Re:%20Sv:%20[VALVE]Disable%20new%20playermodels&References=%3cdb8pr10mb34661ab481b4541490e5023acb...@db8pr10mb3466.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb06140bf5426506400d1fb54cbe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e%3cdb8p195mb06144efdb076d66b57220667be...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e> > > *I apologize for sending double messages both private-direct and on valve > mailsystem, I want the messages to be sent to you through valvesoftware, so > we can have a clear overview on the mailsystem." > > Skin Changer is not allowed and can cause your account to be banned from > hosting servers. > > You can checkout this post here: > https://esportsobserver.com/csgo-ban-character-models/ > > > > What about skin plugins. Are they allows to then? > > > > Skickat från min Xperia-smartphone från Sony > > Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:43 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > Hi Chris, > > > I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character > models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server. > > Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > > "It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to > correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official > Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > > Have a good day! > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo < > sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > > Hi > > I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners. > Its says its not allowed to: > > "Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own > CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player > models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them > with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it > in-fact allowed? > > / Chris > ------------------------------ > > Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <http://list.valvesoftware.com/csgo_servers/msg/12940775> by Miguel > Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> *(02 Jan 2020 12:55 UTC)* > Reply to list > <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com?Subject=Re:%20Sv:%20[VALVE]Disable%20new%20playermodels&References=%3cdb8pr10mb34661ab481b4541490e5023acb...@db8pr10mb3466.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb06140bf5426506400d1fb54cbe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e%3cdb8p195mb0614430563178163c70888cabe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e> > > I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins. > > > Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, but > I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates new steam > accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. (Thats a part of > the skin-changer plugin). > > It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your perspective > thats it's not okay. > > But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. And > I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow the > guidelines. > > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:43 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > Hi Chris, > > > I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character > models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server. > > Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > > "It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to > correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official > Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > > Have a good day! > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo < > sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > > Hi > > I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners. > Its says its not allowed to: > > "Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own > CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player > models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them > with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it > in-fact allowed? > > / Chris > ------------------------------ > > Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models > <http://list.valvesoftware.com/csgo_servers/msg/12941449> by Miguel > Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> *(02 Jan 2020 14:55 UTC)* > Reply to list > <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com?Subject=Re:%20Sv:%20[VALVE]Disable%20new%20playermodels&References=%3cdb8pr10mb34661ab481b4541490e5023acb...@db8pr10mb3466.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb06140bf5426506400d1fb54cbe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e,%3cdb8p195mb0614430563178163c70888cabe...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e%3cdb8p195mb06140ca916ea64682e1c5274be...@db8p195mb0614.eurp195.prod.outlook.com%3e> > > As i mentioned it's against the rules using the skin-changer plugin, so > it's not something that will be allowed. > > I will write it down, and sent it further, then let's see how the devs can > solve it, in the best way. > > Best regards > > Miguel. > > > > Fra: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 2. januar 2020 14:37 > Til: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Emne: Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > If you cant stop it, then please allow the rest of us to run servers on > equal terms until you find a better solution. Whats the point of hurting > only the good communites that wants to follow the rules? > > Dont you see how wrong this is? Please discuss this with whoerver you need > to discuss it with. Its not fair and Ive seen good communites go under > because they follow the rules while others dont. > > I know servers thats breaks the rules and never gets banned. Like they > dont even use the token generators but still nothing happens.. > > Med vänliga hälsningar / Best regards > > Christopher Szabo | Chairman of the Board > > Skype: szaabo85 | E-mail: sza...@hotmail.com > > Website: BrutalCS.nu | Facebook: Facebook.com/BrutalCS > > Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Sendt: 2. januar 2020 13:55 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins. > > > Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, but > I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates new steam > accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. (Thats a part of > the skin-changer plugin). > > It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your perspective > thats it's not okay. > > But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. And > I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow the > guidelines. > > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> > Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:43 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > > Hi Chris, > > > I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character > models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own server. > > Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > > "It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to > correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official > Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > > Have a good day! > > Best regards > Miguel. > > Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo < > sza...@hotmail.com> > Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 > Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com < > csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > > Hi > > I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server owners. > Its says its not allowed to: > > "Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their own > CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > > So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player > models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them > with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is it > in-fact allowed? > > / Chris > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/
