So supposedly Faceit has been told to restore player models on their servers under threat of GSLT bans. At this point I'm not sure what to think anymore and official response from you guys would be really welcome.
Best Regards, Jan Miękina On Jan 4, 2020, 07:43, at 07:43, "Neuro Toxin - corayzon at yahoo.com.au (via csgo_servers list)" <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> wrote: > Yep. >All inaccurate. Valve will unlikely respond as its a can of worms they >already lost the battle on. GSLT bans were issued on Monday, Wednesday >and Fridays. The last GSLT banwave was issued 2018-10-24. >GSLT bans are no longer enforced. Any server admins with a token >provider which have had token bans, they are being played. >On Friday, 3 January 2020, 04:15:00 pm AEDT, John Doe ><ejzipon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >He is not working for Valve. I have no idea why he is writing as if he >were (its really funny tho). This is just some random person and he is >just guessing as far as I understand. >Den fre 3 jan. 2020 kl 05:52 skrev Daniel Sensenbringer ><headad...@warmupserver.net>: > > >Hi Miguel, > > > >Thanks for your answer. But I am asking myself one question according >to your answer. Who are you, that you are able to answer this question? >Are you from Valve? Your email doesn’t look like: mig...@hotmail.dk > > > >In case you are not from Valve: Why do you know that a server sided >skinchanger, that swaps the equipped model to the standard model is >allowed? > > > >Would be awesome if someone from Valve could answer this question. We >need to be sure. > > > >Best Regards > >daniels > > > > > >Von: CS:GO Dedicated Server Mailing List >[mailto:nob...@simplelists.com] >Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Januar 2020 01:41 >An: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >Betreff: Daily digest for csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com > > > >| >(Previous discussion continued) > | >| >Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >08:43 UTC) > | | | >| >(missing) > | >| >(missing) > | >| >(missing) > | >| >(missing) > | >| >(missing) > | >| >Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Miguel Petersen (02 Jan >2020 12:11 UTC) > | | | >| >SV: [Csgo_servers] Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Christopher >Szabo (02 Jan 2020 08:45 UTC) > | | | >| >Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >09:12 UTC) > | | | >| >Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >12:55 UTC) > | | | >| >Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models - Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >14:55 UTC) > | | | > > >Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >08:43 UTC) >Reply to list > >Hi Chris, > > >I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character >models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own >server. > >Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > >"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to >correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official >Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > >Have a good day! > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo ><sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > >Hi > >I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server >owners. Its says its not allowed to: > >"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their >own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player >models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them >with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is >it in-fact allowed? > >/ Chris > >Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan >2020 12:11 UTC) >Reply to list > >I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins. > > >Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, >but I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates >new steam accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. >(Thats a part of the skin-changer plugin). > >It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your >perspective thats it's not okay. > >But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. >And I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow >the guidelines. > > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 2. januar 2020 12:26 >Til: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Emne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >Also, I wasnt taking about a client skin changer, I was asking about >giving players weapon skins/gloves that they dont currently own, on a >comunity server via sourcemod plugins. > >Is that allowed now? Because its like this, Ive been running a CS >community for over 15 years now. We are following the guidelines and >always have. But we compete against other servers that dont follow the >guidelines... > >They offer their players cool Valve skins the players dont own, and >they never get token banned. > >This means that we follow the rules and we lose players and they break >the rules and gain players without consequences. This is not fair at >all. > >I dont think its fair having rules that you dont enforce because the >good guys gets screwed. 😕 > >Med vänliga hälsningar / Best regards > >Christopher Szabo | Chairman of the Board > >Skype: szaabo85 | E-mail: sza...@hotmail.com > >Website: BrutalCS.nu | Facebook: Facebook.com/BrutalCS > >Från: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> >Skickat: den 2 januari 2020 12:20 >Till: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Ämne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >I dont understand. It clearly states: > >To be clear, the services that should not be offered on a _community >server_ include (but are not limited to): > >– Allowing players to claim temporary ownership of CS:GO items that are >not in their inventory (Weapon skins, knives, etc.). > >– Providing a falsified competitive skill group and/or profile rank >status or scoreboard coin (e.g., Operation Challenge Coins). > >– Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their >own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile. > >For clarification, it is also not acceptable to provide players with >custom models and/or weapon skins that do not exist in the CS:GO >ecosystem. > >You should probably reword the Valve guidelines then. Also the >guidelines now states that we are not allowed to use ANY custom skins. >Many community servers are using mods like zombie etc that are using >custom skins. > >And they are banned according to the above rules. > >Med vänliga hälsningar / Best regards > >Christopher Szabo | Chairman of the Board > >Skype: szaabo85 | E-mail: sza...@hotmail.com > >Website: BrutalCS.nu | Facebook: Facebook.com/BrutalCS > >Från: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Skickat: den 2 januari 2020 10:06 >Till: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> >Ämne: Sv: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >Skin Changer is not allowed and can cause your account to be banned >from hosting servers. > >You can checkout this post here: >https://esportsobserver.com/csgo-ban-character-models/ > > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:51 >Til: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Emne: SV: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >What about skin plugins. Are they allows to then? > > > >Skickat från min Xperia-smartphone från Sony > > > >---- Miguel Petersen skrev ---- > >Hi Chris, > > >I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character >models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own >server. > >Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > >"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to >correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official >Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > >Have a good day! > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo ><sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > >Hi > >I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server >owners. Its says its not allowed to: > >"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their >own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player >models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them >with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is >it in-fact allowed? > >/ Chris > >SV: [Csgo_servers] Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Christopher >Szabo (02 Jan 2020 08:45 UTC) >Reply to list > >What about community servers? > > > >Skickat från min Xperia-smartphone från Sony > > > >---- Miguel Petersen skrev ---- > >Hi Chris, > > >I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character >models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own >server. > >Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > >"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to >correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official >Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > >Have a good day! > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo ><sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > >Hi > >I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server >owners. Its says its not allowed to: > >"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their >own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player >models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them >with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is >it in-fact allowed? > >/ Chris > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > >Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >09:12 UTC) >Reply to list > >*I apologize for sending double messages both private-direct and on >valve mailsystem, I want the messages to be sent to you through >valvesoftware, so we can have a clear overview on the mailsystem." > >Skin Changer is not allowed and can cause your account to be banned >from hosting servers. > >You can checkout this post here: >https://esportsobserver.com/csgo-ban-character-models/ > > > >What about skin plugins. Are they allows to then? > > > >Skickat från min Xperia-smartphone från Sony > >Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:43 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >Hi Chris, > > >I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character >models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own >server. > >Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > >"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to >correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official >Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > >Have a good day! > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo ><sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > >Hi > >I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server >owners. Its says its not allowed to: > >"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their >own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player >models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them >with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is >it in-fact allowed? > >/ Chris > >Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >12:55 UTC) >Reply to list > >I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins. > > >Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, >but I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates >new steam accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. >(Thats a part of the skin-changer plugin). > >It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your >perspective thats it's not okay. > >But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. >And I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow >the guidelines. > > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:43 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >Hi Chris, > > >I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character >models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own >server. > >Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > >"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to >correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official >Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > >Have a good day! > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo ><sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > >Hi > >I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server >owners. Its says its not allowed to: > >"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their >own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player >models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them >with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is >it in-fact allowed? > >/ Chris > >Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models by Miguel Petersen (02 Jan 2020 >14:55 UTC) >Reply to list > >As i mentioned it's against the rules using the skin-changer plugin, so >it's not something that will be allowed. > >I will write it down, and sent it further, then let's see how the devs >can solve it, in the best way. > >Best regards > >Miguel. > > > >Fra: Christopher Szabo <sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 2. januar 2020 14:37 >Til: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Emne: Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >If you cant stop it, then please allow the rest of us to run servers on >equal terms until you find a better solution. Whats the point of >hurting only the good communites that wants to follow the rules? > >Dont you see how wrong this is? Please discuss this with whoerver you >need to discuss it with. Its not fair and Ive seen good communites go >under because they follow the rules while others dont. > >I know servers thats breaks the rules and never gets banned. Like they >dont even use the token generators but still nothing happens.. > >Med vänliga hälsningar / Best regards > >Christopher Szabo | Chairman of the Board > >Skype: szaabo85 | E-mail: sza...@hotmail.com > >Website: BrutalCS.nu | Facebook: Facebook.com/BrutalCS > >Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Sendt: 2. januar 2020 13:55 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: Sv: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >I know it's a huge problem that server owners are using these plugins. > > >Robots are banning user tokens on daily basis regarding this problem, >but I also know that when the token is banned, their system generates >new steam accounts and autofill in the new token into the plugin. >(Thats a part of the skin-changer plugin). > >It's really hard to stop, but ofcourse I can see it from your >perspective thats it's not okay. > >But I can only say at the moment that it's still strongly forbidden. >And I'm sorry to hear you lose many players on this, because you follow >the guidelines. > > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: Miguel Petersen <mig...@hotmail.dk> >Sendt: 2. januar 2020 09:43 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: Re: [VALVE] Disable new player models > > > >Hi Chris, > > >I'm sorry but it's not possible to disable the Shattered Web Character >models on official servers, you can do it with a plugin for your own >server. > >Faceit is not breaking the rules because it's not official servers. > >"It's not allowed to: Interfering with systems that allow players to >correctly access their own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >It means that it's not allowed to change the models on official >Competitive Ingame 5vs5 servers, Casual, Dangerzone etc. > > >Have a good day! > >Best regards >Miguel. > >Fra: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> på vegne af Christopher Szabo ><sza...@hotmail.com> >Sendt: 19. december 2019 13:39 >Til: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com ><csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >Emne: [Csgo_servers] Disable new player models > > > >Hi > >I have a question regarding the Valve Guides lines for CSGO server >owners. Its says its not allowed to: > >"Interfering with systems that allow players to correctly access their >own CS:GO inventories, items, or profile.!" > >So my question is: Does this mean that we can't inactive the new player >models that people keep complaining about? Its possible to disable them >with Sourcemod plugin. > > I know Faceit has disabled them, so are they breaking the rules? Or is >it in-fact allowed? > >/ Chris > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/ _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/
