On 2007/03/25 23:42 (GMT-0400) Stephen Jungels apparently typed:

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> I've learned a lot by starting to read this list recently and now am trying
> my first question.  Thanks for any help you are able to provide.

> After noticing that my site's text did not resize in IE 6 and reading some
> messages here, I took the advice at
> http://www.oliverhodgson.com/articles/friendlyfonts/ and used percentages
> and ems to set my font sizes.

> Now I find that everything looks as expected in Firefox.  In IE 6, the main
> content font-size is a little too large.  In Opera, the sidebar font-size is
> a little too small.  On the other hand, fonts resize nicely in IE, so there
> is a definite improvement there.  I realize sometimes we have to accept
> tradeoffs, but I solicit your advice:

> 1. Is this the best I can do or is there a way  to make all three browsers
> look like Firefox?

You can't fully do that and at the same time have a user friendly, fully
accessible page.

> 2. For usability, is it more important  to  enable font-resizing in IE, or
> to get the right size in all three browsers?

Only the visitor can determine the "right size", so enabling font resizing
by avoiding px and physical CSS units for font sizing is the right thing to do.

> 3. Any comments you may have about how it works in other browsers you may
> try

I see no apparent difference between IE and FF here. FF here has the same
effective default font size as IE, which is both 12pt and 16px. That
matching is the effect of the M$ default system DPI setting, which is the
determinant of the relationship between pt sizes and px sizes.

If you are seeing a difference it is likely the result of your use of a
modern system, likely a laptop, on which the system DPI setting is 120
(called "large fonts") rather than 96 ("normal" fonts on WinXP). That DPI
difference increases the size of IE's 12pt default from 16px to 20px, while
leaving FF's 16px untouched.

The other common reason for differences between IE and FF stems from your
use of a doctype that puts modern browsers into "quirks" rendering mode. All
new pages should be created using a doctype that puts browsers into
"standards compliance" mode in order to minimize rendering differences among
different browsers.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla's_DOCTYPE_sniffing
http://gutfeldt.ch/matthias/articles/doctypeswitch.html

So, the thing to do is accept that the page will not look the same in all
viewing environments. Strive to ensure that it remains fully functional in a
wide range of environments, and be content with mere similarity as user
environments deviate from yours.

> I am a programmer moonlighting as a designer and relatively new to CSS, so I
> know there may be stylistic issues already, but if you care to comment on
> that that's fine.

> The site: http://www.pithypedia.com/
> The style sheet: http://www.pithypedia.com/style.css

I like it. :-)
-- 
"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but to save the world through him."      John 3:17 NIV

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