Sorry, David, meant to send my reply to the list... but
this goofy setup always causes me problems with the "Reply" button...

Here was my response that went directly to you:

> Just remember, not to forget, there is not one layout on the above
> referenced page, that is not broken with user discretion to scale the
> fonts to +2, and destroyed at +3. 

Thanks for pointing that out David.

However, it's good to remember that for those of us that are just beginning
to work with CSS layouts,  that getting *anything* to work on any level
is a big challenge.  Once we become more knowledgeable and experienced we
can begin to work with broader concerns, like font-scaling, more browser
compatibility, etc.

For me, just being able to make CSS-based sites without tables has been a 
big task... especially having no formal training in it.  Just getting them
to look "as good as" my table-based sites has been a big challenge.

So don't expect too much of us newbies too soon... it'll only scare the
faint-hearted away.  Sometimes a "pretty picture" is a big goal!

Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of David Laakso
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
> Subject: Re: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats
> 
> Rick Faircloth wrote:
> > Hi, Rayburn...
> >
> > Let me tell you what finally enabled me to start making totally css-layout
> > sites, using only tables for tabular data.
> >
> > I went to http://www.templateworld.com/free_templates.html and downloaded
> > several free sites, including all images and other assets that you need for
> > a complete site, and basically re-created from scratch, their css files and
> > html files to see how each step affected what I was doing...Trimmed--->}
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, indeed...
> 
> Just remember, not to forget, there is not one layout on the above
> referenced page, that is not broken with user discretion to scale the
> fonts to +2, and destroyed at +3. Mostly it has to do with imposing
> height restrictions. Make a "pretty picture" with CSS if that is your
> want-- just make sure that pretty picture can withstand a little stress
> and strain, and that it can get pushed around and shoved around, without
> turning into an explosion in a liquor store...
> 
> Best wishes for your success, Rayburn.
> 
> ~dL
> 
> PS Stick with it and with this list.
> 
> --
> http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
> 
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