Ø if you are creating a commercial web site then you are decreasing your web sites accessibility and therefore you are loosing those potential customers.
Thanks for your thoughts, Davoud I agree with your perspective on trying to cater to as many users as possible. Users *are* the standards committee for me, which is why, at least for new, I target only FF2, IE6, and IE7, which really represents almost all users, percentage-wise, especially on my sits. And the target browsers will include FF3, when it is released. But the targeting key for me is as many users/browsers as *possible*. Im wrestling with learning totally CSS-based design, learning a new IDE (Eclipse/CFEclipse), trying to keep up with SEO/SEM concerns for my clients and generate their reports and offer perspective on them, learn the new tools for coding in ColdFusion 8, to which I recently upgraded, keep MySQL happy, keep production of new sites moving, write proposals, etc. Its just matter of how many straws can you put on the camels back, before he buckles under the weight. For some to complain that a site breaks when font size is increased to +3 may be important for some, but its not something I can add to my list of priorities right now. I do have sympathy, even empathy, for those visually impaired my increasingly poor eyesight is causing headaches and aggravation right now, and I do appreciate it when some offers the various size A buttons on their site to increase font size. Its just not something Ive had time to learn to employ into my sites. Although, at some point, I will. Im adapting practices as fast as possible, but CSS coding can be a real pain in the rear with browser compatibility. In many ways, it would be *far* simpler to just to go back to tables. Since my change-over to CSS-based layouts, my sites take a lot longer to develop because of the inherent CSS compatibility problems. I just tend to balk at the attitude of some who say do CSS completely correctly or dont do it at all. This is like asking all airlines to drop their fares to $10 per flight no matter what class or destination so all can travel by air and see the world. It would be great, but the airlines cant afford to offer that utopian level of service. So, not everyone gets to fly around the world or at all, and certainly not first class. Rick PS - @ ~dl I did top post! :o) (however I like to leave the message Im responding to somewhere in the response for context ) From: DAVOUD TOHIDY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:04 AM To: Rick Faircloth Subject: RE: [css-d] problems with CSS and floats Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:32:33 -0500 Rick Wrote: > For example, personally, at this point, I don't care if anyone > ever reads any of my sites on a "text-only" browser. > ...but there should be no expectation that they *should*... > ...building websites is *totally* a matter of personal choice. Rick, I did not have the time to read all your thread and sorry if I miss some points. I just tought to give you my opinion about your comments. Yes I do agree with you that building web site is a matter of choice but in terms of expectation well, I do not agree with you. Your users and potential customers will expect it from you to provide them a better user experience and better accessibility, usability and better User interface. If you do not care for the users who use text only browsers, that is o.k but remember that if you are creating a commercial web site then you are decreasing your web sites accessibility and therefore you are loosing those potential customers. best davoud ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/