Hi John,
Try this. I think Felix will approve of this one. ;)

/* new header nav */

#main_nav{
/*      border:1px solid red; */
        border:1px solid rgb(255,255,255);
        float:left;
        width:100%;
}
#main_nav ul {
        list-style-type:none; position:relative; margin: 0.5em 0 0 0; padding:0;
}
#main_nav ul > li {
        float:left; margin:0 auto; padding: 0 1.99em; font-weight:bold;
}
#main_nav > ul li a{
        text-decoration:none;
        border:1px dotted rgb(0,0,0);
        border-width:0 0 1px 0;
        color:rgb(31,166,0);
        display:block;
        font-size:70%;
}
#main_nav ul li a:hover,
#main_nav ul li a:focus{

}

/* new header sub-nav */

#main_nav ul ul{
        margin:0 0 0 0;
        padding:0;
        background:rgb(31,166,0);
        border-radius: 0 0 6px 6px;
        border-top:4px solid rgb(0,0,0);
        position:absolute;
        visibility:hidden;
        opacity:0;
        transition:visibility 0s linear 0.35s, opacity 0.5s linear;
}
#main_nav ul li:hover ul{
        visibility:visible;
        opacity:1;
        transition-delay:0s;
}
#main_nav ul ul li{
        width:auto;
        float:none;
        padding: 8%;
}
#main_nav ul ul li a{
        border:0;
        font-weight:normal;
        color:rgb(255,255,255);
        padding:0 0 2px 0;
}
#main_nav ul ul li a:hover{
        font-weight:normal;
        border-bottom:2px solid rgb(255,255,255);
        padding:0;
}

/* END new header nav */

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com



On Aug 19, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On 2014-08-19 17:30 (GMT-0700) John composed:
> 
>> Felix Miata wrote:
> 
>>> If such a nav absolutely has to wrap, then (to me) it would look better 
>>> (more
>>> professional) with the left margin matched to the right, and/or with the 
>>> left
>>> margin of line two *not* matched to the left margin of the first line (such
>>> as doubled).
> 
>> Ah…so you’re keying on the fact that the header nav isn’t centered 
>> horizontally, right?
> 
> I would not call it key, just a part of the overall impression presented. The
> abundance of whitespace on line 1 coupled with a runt on line 2 bothers me
> more than a little. I'm an anti-fan of the scrolling abundant whitespace 
> implies.
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