Oh, forgot the footer... sry.

#footer_nav ul {
        list-style-type:none; position:relative; margin:0.5em 0 0 0; padding:0;
}

#footer_nav li {
        float:left; margin-right:3.95%; font-weight:bold;
}

#footer_nav ul ul {
        margin: 1.5% 0; position:absolute; visibility:hidden; opacity:0; 
transition:visibility 0s linear 0.35s, opacity 0.5s linear;
}

#footer_nav ul ul li {
        margin: 0 0 7% 0;
}

#footer_nav li a {
        text-decoration:none; border:1px dotted rgb(255,255,255); 
border-width:0 0 1px 0; color:rgb(255,255,255); display:block; font-size:70%; 
line-height: 1.2em;
}

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com



On Aug 19, 2014, at 8:53 PM, Karl DeSaulniers <k...@designdrumm.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
> Try this. I think Felix will approve of this one. ;)
> 
> /* new header nav */
> 
> #main_nav{
> /*    border:1px solid red; */
>       border:1px solid rgb(255,255,255);
>       float:left;
>       width:100%;
> }
> #main_nav ul {
>       list-style-type:none; position:relative; margin: 0.5em 0 0 0; padding:0;
> }
> #main_nav ul > li {
>       float:left; margin:0 auto; padding: 0 1.99em; font-weight:bold;
> }
> #main_nav > ul li a{
>       text-decoration:none;
>       border:1px dotted rgb(0,0,0);
>       border-width:0 0 1px 0;
>       color:rgb(31,166,0);
>       display:block;
>       font-size:70%;
> }
> #main_nav ul li a:hover,
> #main_nav ul li a:focus{
> 
> }
> 
> /* new header sub-nav */
> 
> #main_nav ul ul{
>       margin:0 0 0 0;
>       padding:0;
>       background:rgb(31,166,0);
>       border-radius: 0 0 6px 6px;
>       border-top:4px solid rgb(0,0,0);
>       position:absolute;
>       visibility:hidden;
>       opacity:0;
>       transition:visibility 0s linear 0.35s, opacity 0.5s linear;
> }
> #main_nav ul li:hover ul{
>       visibility:visible;
>       opacity:1;
>       transition-delay:0s;
> }
> #main_nav ul ul li{
>       width:auto;
>       float:none;
>       padding: 8%;
> }
> #main_nav ul ul li a{
>       border:0;
>       font-weight:normal;
>       color:rgb(255,255,255);
>       padding:0 0 2px 0;
> }
> #main_nav ul ul li a:hover{
>       font-weight:normal;
>       border-bottom:2px solid rgb(255,255,255);
>       padding:0;
> }
> 
> /* END new header nav */
> 
> Best,
> 
> Karl DeSaulniers
> Design Drumm
> http://designdrumm.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2014-08-19 17:30 (GMT-0700) John composed:
>> 
>>> Felix Miata wrote:
>> 
>>>> If such a nav absolutely has to wrap, then (to me) it would look better 
>>>> (more
>>>> professional) with the left margin matched to the right, and/or with the 
>>>> left
>>>> margin of line two *not* matched to the left margin of the first line (such
>>>> as doubled).
>> 
>>> Ah…so you’re keying on the fact that the header nav isn’t centered 
>>> horizontally, right?
>> 
>> I would not call it key, just a part of the overall impression presented. The
>> abundance of whitespace on line 1 coupled with a runt on line 2 bothers me
>> more than a little. I'm an anti-fan of the scrolling abundant whitespace 
>> implies.
>> -- 
>> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
>> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
>> 
>> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
>> 
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