Hi Eric,

I'am a member of the list for already quite some years. And i hope the list will continue as is. I always got great help from the other subscribers. As others also have written, the list is a great place to turn to if you have a problem you can't figure out yourself. And indeed in other places it is often hard to get real help.

On css-d i always get help/guidance to come to a solution, and also explanation to the matter. So the list is very much appreciated by me. And even if there are not a lot of subscribers, the list is still very valuable by the people who get help here.

Thank you, Erik Visser



Op 23-12-15 om 21:35 schreef Eric A. Meyer:
Hi, everyone,

So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us really noticed until this month. Or, if people noticed, nobody mentioned it until this month. It took a while to get in touch with someone who could get the software restarted, but I'm told it's back up. If you're reading this, then yes, it's back up. This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue. There are a lot of other venues for discussing CSS these days, and most of the reason for this list existing-- to help people figure out how CSS worked, and fix problems-- is covered much more compellingly by sites like StackOverflow. The resources that used to support css-d, like the public archive and the wiki, have fallen into disuse or disrepair over the years. In general, there's a faded feeling here, at least for me.
   Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action:

1. Shut down the list. To all good things, etc. This obviously abandons those who still prize having a mailing list, but that number seems very small. Almost all the discussion in the months leading up to the hiatus was conducted between a small number of subscribers. Of course, a new list could be started by someone else. 2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit. This involves the very difficult task of finding someone who's interested, and making a good choice. This is the least appealing of the three, honestly, because of the possibility of getting things wrong. 3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use" to more general discussion about anything CSS-related. That would include theoretical musings, discussion of what CSS should or shouldn't be, where it should go in the future, the general theory of CSS, and so on. I'm less inclined to go this route, as there are other places to grapple with the deeper issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention blogs and social media).

At this point, perhaps due to pride and ego but perhaps simply due to feeling that the time has come, I'm leaning toward option 1. January 24, 2016, will be the 14th anniversary of the list. That leaves a month to either settle on a different course of action, or else to plan a shutdown. If anyone has strong feelings that it should be one of the other two options, or a fourth option I didn't list, feel free to let me know off-list. I may not be able to respond to every message, but I will read them all. I expect to make a final decision on or before January 10, 2016. Whatever I decide, I'll announce it here.

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Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/
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