Geoff Hull <geoff.h...@mccarthy.co.nz> wrote:

> I would have to disagree, Steve. There are some of us still in "dinosaur 
> land", and still using CSSC/SCCS on a daily basis.
>
> 10 years ago this year, we moved our COBOL development platform from 
> HP-UX/AIX/Solaris (and DG/UX before that) and on to a shiny new ProLiant 
> running RHEL 4.7. 

This was when SCCS has been opensourced ;-)

> One of the biggest hurdles for us was being able to manage our source code 
> under GNU/Linux. Luckily, there was James Youngman and CSSC. I would have to 
> say that we have found CSSC to be particularly dependable and well written. 
> The only problems we've ever had with it were caused by our misuse of the 
> SCCS files.

Could you please explain what "misuse" you have in mind?

> We use a highly customised script as a wrapper frontend to CSSC, and we 
> should probably move to a later Version Control System, but I would have to 
> convince my employer of the need to do that when we already have a perfectly 
> functional system that everybody here is already familiar with. (We are 
> already using Subversion for our Java development.) We also have some unusual 
> practices, I think, which might make moving to some other VCS a little tricky.

I would be very interested to know what you do in your wrapper.

Before SCCS has been opensourced, I did have own wrappers that automatically 
create log files and that help to use the original file creation time stamp.

-       Logging now works with "sccs log file" or "sccs -R log" in the project
        top level directory.

-       Most sccs programs now have a -o option for "original date". This
        includes "sccs create", "delget" and get".

If you have more needs I may implement them in case they may be of use for more 
people.

> We do anywhere from about 3 to 20 "check-ins" (commits) per day, and there 
> are 14,353 files managed by CSSC. It works very well!

If you did have so many deltas for a single specific file, you could already 
hit the limit of 32000 deltas for CSSC. Do you know the maximum delta number 
for the most frequently modified file?

BTW: You seem to have more files than I personally manage with SCCS. I have a 
total of 50000 deltas in 6000 files - since the mid 1980s. Still an average of 
aprox. 4.5 deltas per day during the past 30 years. My highest version number
in a single file is 1.415.


Jörg

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