Thanks Andy for the feedback. Examples are a good idea- Were you thinking of adding it to the README file or the confluence user guide?
Feel free to update the downloads page(s) (it uses Apache CMS) and the User Guides (Confluence wiki). Note: The release is still being replicated to all of the mirrors and may take up to 24 hrs, so I would wait until after the weekend before testing all of the mirror links. --Pei ________________________________________ From: Andy McMurry [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator Clarifications There isn't a last Apache release. But there are last previous NIH, Sourceforge, and Apache releases? TODO: Project History Page (Simple, just the releases and times, ideally with JIRA generated release notes). Suggestion: Demonstration > explanation. Use Examples !! EXAMPLE 1 : Basic Pipeline (without UMLS) ** SHOW Before and after clinical text, demonstrates purpose ** LIST the 5 steps ** Most impressive demo would be the smoking status pipeline EXAMPLE 2: Basic Pipeline (with UMLS) ** SHOW Before and after (input text -> output annotations) ** LIST the steps ** Most impressive demo would be a negation of a cancer diagnosis and NER of a medication (chemotherapuetic drug). Thoughts? --andy On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Andy McMurry <[email protected]> wrote: > Sure thing Pei. > > I dont think cTAKES is ready for attention grabbing release (humble opinion). > And when you release you want to grab attention! ! cTAKES is awesome!! > > Suggestions (release blockers) > > (1) Downloads > http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/downloads.cgi > ! Link to install instructions is not there but "Verifying signatures" takes > up 20% of the page. NEEDS OBVIOUS LINK TO INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS. > ! Last official release is blank because there isn't one, remove it > ! First mirror I tried was a 404? (not sure which one). I changed the mirror > then OK. Test all mirrors (script) > ? Previous releases are VERY confusing. > ? The NIH and SourceForge pages should redirect to cTAKES, google "cTAKES > download" and imagine how confused a beginner would be. > > (2) User Guide > http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/3.0.0/user-guide-3.0 > ? 3.0.0 : no list of new features from last stable release. Why would a user > bother to upgrade to a beta? > ! Would be better to have a bundled download with resources, if possible. > Otherwise, make it clear to a newcomer what the benefit of getting UMLS / LVG > is. (one sentence). > ! Needs a very high level overview of the components in the context of using > them to do a very basic task like. > ! This is likely the most frequently accessed document for cTAKES. It has > almost no pointers to where to find basic information. > > (3) OTHER > * The NCI and SourceForge links are now highly confusing. > * While I am downloading, I should be reading the recommended "Get Started" > guide > > I'm still downloading the 2GB resources file. > I'll try and get back to you about the install when that is done too. > > This constructive criticism is because I believe cTAKES is AWESOME. > Hard to see how awesome it is given the current instructions. > > --Andy > > > On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:02 PM, "Chen, Pei" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Andy, >> So much has changed in cTAKES since last year, if you have a chance- do you >> also want to try downloading the -bin and ensure at least the steps in the >> README are able to get you started? >> >> --Pei >> ________________________________________ >> From: Andy McMurry [[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:04 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator >> >> Suggestion: can we get a good programmer with no cTAKES experience to kick >> the tires and tell us how long it took to get started? >> >> John Resig (jQuery founder) once told me "if it takes more than 15 minutes >> to get started, then that is way too long". >> >> "What is necessary is that enough investment be put into presentation that >> newcomers can get past the obstacle of unfamiliarity. … >> Hactivation energy: the amount of energy a newcomer must put in before she >> starts getting something back" >> -- From "Producing Open Source Software" >> >> http://books.google.com/books?id=0vbr7xvvzjgC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=hacktivation+energy&source=bl&ots=D0hP85ndwz&sig=G5HO-7GbLqQPwLaI6210D9WGk2E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=N6EeUZXVHMHhiALq3YG4BQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=hacktivation%20energy&f=false >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:55 PM, "Chen, Pei" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> This is to open a discussion to graduate Apache cTAKES podling from the >>> Apache Incubator. >>> >>> Apache cTAKES entered the Incubator in June of 2012. We have made >>> significant progress with the project since moving over to Apache. We >>> currently have 18 committers listed on our status page at [1] including >>> over 10 which accepted after the podling was formed. >>> >>> During incubation, cTAKES has : >>> * Produced 1 Release >>> * Added 10 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community >>> activities >>> * Cleared IP on code >>> * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases in a community >>> process and started working on that [2] >>> * The community of Apache cTAKES is active, healthy, and growing and has >>> demonstrated the ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices. >>> >>> [1] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ctakes >>> [2] >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aroadmap-panel >>> >> >
