I just open the downloads page again this morning. If the first thing I do is click a downloadable file I get the error. I'm using FF 18.02. I also tried IE 8, same thing. In both cases pressing the Change button makes it work.
Thanks Troy -----Original Message----- From: ctakes-dev-return-1246-Bleeker.Troy=mayo....@incubator.apache.org [mailto:ctakes-dev-return-1246-Bleeker.Troy=mayo....@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Chen, Pei Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:45 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: cTAKES 3.0.0 Feedback Was: RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator > - The downloads page must work. It now seems to function alright ***IF*** you > refresh the page or select a mirror and click the Change button. Hi Troy, I think this was fixed. Links (sidenav) were updated to use downloads.cgi instead of html. Could you confirm? On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "Bleeker, Troy C." <[email protected]> wrote: > All the suggestions and discussion are good. There's a lot here, sorry for > the long summary. First things first: > > - The downloads page must work. It now seems to function alright ***IF*** you > refresh the page or select a mirror and click the Change button. If you do > neither and try to download you get this error: "The requested URL > /ctakes/[preferred]incubator/ctakes/apache-ctakes-3.0.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz > was not found on this server." Anyone have time to fix this? > - Adding a link to the install instructions makes it obvious (which I have > done to the page) but it was there in a sense. The page said "Use the > Developer and User Guides to direct you through the installation process." > and the links to those were just to the left in the hierarchy. > - "Last official release" was held until now. Since 3.0 is going to be > officially announced, 3.0 will go there. I made that change as well. > - A list of changed features has not been high priority since the original > goal was to make a 3.0 in Apache that pretty much matched the function of > 2.5. The only thing that changed was how the product is built and shipped. > Nevertheless we need to state at least that somewhere. > - The resources file is 1.1 GB not 2 right? > > Keep in mind that the community decided to release cTAKES 3.0 without the doc > being complete, but these must be next: > - The current guides are still not complete. I made it through the developer > guide but the user guide still has problems. I get errors after installing > and running scripts. I have not been able to try the comparison test that was > available previously. The table at the bottom I have not got to yet. > - We have 2 sites now 1) cTAKES home http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/ 2) > cTAKES doc https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES. I've done my > best to minimize a user going back and forth. We have it this way because a > useful guide is not easy (IMHO or even possible) with markdown text in the > cTAKES home pages. There are still 3.0 developer and user guide pages on the > cTAKES home site that should be removed so no one stumbles on to them. > - Where would a newcomer hit first? Internet search for "ctakes" or "ctakes > 3.0" is probably first. Top hits on those lists should be modified to point > to the best Apache cTAKES landing page. > - The Getting Started page needs to be written in context of all future > releases not just 3.0. > - Previous releases list. We need to both point to the NCI sites for 2.6 and > back plus create an archive for what will be the history of Apache releases. > Needs work your right. > > Potential priorities after that: > - The examples, as described by Andy, would be more than a readme should > have. This would be great for a how-to guide. > - The Developer Guide and User Guide have historically been install guides > not how-to guides. I don't think a how-to guide should be incorporated into > these but should be its own document. > - cTAKES has never had a how-to guide that I know of. Making one would > be great and as you say should include things like 1) pointers to where to > find basic information 2) very high level overview of the components in the > context of using them to do a very basic task like 3) I think it was > suggested that the Getting Started page might be something like this in very > short form. If we did that then it would point to a more comprehensive how-to > guide. > - Project history page of all cTAKES releases placed on Apache sites > somewhere. Good plan if short. I would not copy readmes there but have links > to them. > I already did this for cTAKES 2.5 and past: > https://wiki.nci.nih.gov/display/VKC/cTAKES+Roadmap > Move this page to Apache? Have a page on Apache that continues this and > points back to what already exists? > Also, I had this project history on the Apache cTAKES downloads page but that > section was removed when 3.0 was placed on there. If you can find the history > of changes to that page you may find something already done in markdown > format. > - Creating a single download for a newcomer. This has been discussed and > tabled by the community for the time being in order to get the 3.0 release > done and out the door. We need to come back to this in order to make the best > first impression. > > Troy > > -----Original Message----- > From: > ctakes-dev-return-1230-Bleeker.Troy=mayo....@incubator.apache.org > [mailto:[email protected]. > org] On Behalf Of Chen, Pei > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: cTAKES 3.0.0 Feedback Was: RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from > Incubator > > Thanks Andy for the feedback. > Examples are a good idea- Were you thinking of adding it to the README file > or the confluence user guide? > > Feel free to update the downloads page(s) (it uses Apache CMS) and the User > Guides (Confluence wiki). > Note: The release is still being replicated to all of the mirrors and may > take up to 24 hrs, so I would wait until after the weekend before testing all > of the mirror links. > > --Pei > ________________________________________ > From: Andy McMurry [[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator > > Clarifications > > There isn't a last Apache release. But there are last previous NIH, > Sourceforge, and Apache releases? > TODO: Project History Page (Simple, just the releases and times, ideally with > JIRA generated release notes). > > Suggestion: Demonstration > explanation. Use Examples !! > > EXAMPLE 1 : Basic Pipeline (without UMLS) > > ** SHOW Before and after clinical text, demonstrates purpose > ** LIST the 5 steps > ** Most impressive demo would be the smoking status pipeline > > EXAMPLE 2: Basic Pipeline (with UMLS) > > ** SHOW Before and after (input text -> output annotations) > ** LIST the steps > ** Most impressive demo would be a negation of a cancer diagnosis and NER of > a medication (chemotherapuetic drug). > > Thoughts? > --andy > > > On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Andy McMurry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sure thing Pei. >> >> I dont think cTAKES is ready for attention grabbing release (humble opinion). >> And when you release you want to grab attention! ! cTAKES is awesome!! >> >> Suggestions (release blockers) >> >> (1) Downloads >> http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/downloads.cgi >> ! Link to install instructions is not there but "Verifying signatures" takes >> up 20% of the page. NEEDS OBVIOUS LINK TO INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS. >> ! Last official release is blank because there isn't one, remove it ! >> First mirror I tried was a 404? (not sure which one). I changed the >> mirror then OK. Test all mirrors (script) ? Previous releases are VERY >> confusing. >> ? The NIH and SourceForge pages should redirect to cTAKES, google "cTAKES >> download" and imagine how confused a beginner would be. >> >> (2) User Guide >> http://incubator.apache.org/ctakes/3.0.0/user-guide-3.0 >> ? 3.0.0 : no list of new features from last stable release. Why would a user >> bother to upgrade to a beta? >> ! Would be better to have a bundled download with resources, if possible. >> Otherwise, make it clear to a newcomer what the benefit of getting UMLS / >> LVG is. (one sentence). >> ! Needs a very high level overview of the components in the context of using >> them to do a very basic task like. >> ! This is likely the most frequently accessed document for cTAKES. It has >> almost no pointers to where to find basic information. >> >> (3) OTHER >> * The NCI and SourceForge links are now highly confusing. >> * While I am downloading, I should be reading the recommended "Get >> Started" guide >> >> I'm still downloading the 2GB resources file. >> I'll try and get back to you about the install when that is done too. >> >> This constructive criticism is because I believe cTAKES is AWESOME. >> Hard to see how awesome it is given the current instructions. >> >> --Andy >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:02 PM, "Chen, Pei" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Andy, >>> So much has changed in cTAKES since last year, if you have a chance- do you >>> also want to try downloading the -bin and ensure at least the steps in the >>> README are able to get you started? >>> >>> --Pei >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Andy McMurry [[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:04 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate cTAKES from Incubator >>> >>> Suggestion: can we get a good programmer with no cTAKES experience to kick >>> the tires and tell us how long it took to get started? >>> >>> John Resig (jQuery founder) once told me "if it takes more than 15 minutes >>> to get started, then that is way too long". >>> >>> "What is necessary is that enough investment be put into >>> presentation that newcomers can get past the obstacle of unfamiliarity. ... >>> Hactivation energy: the amount of energy a newcomer must put in before she >>> starts getting something back" >>> -- From "Producing Open Source Software" >>> >>> http://books.google.com/books?id=0vbr7xvvzjgC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=ha >>> c >>> ktivation+energy&source=bl&ots=D0hP85ndwz&sig=G5HO-7GbLqQPwLaI6210D9 >>> ktivation+W >>> Gk2E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=N6EeUZXVHMHhiALq3YG4BQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage& >>> q >>> =hacktivation%20energy&f=false >>> >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:55 PM, "Chen, Pei" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This is to open a discussion to graduate Apache cTAKES podling from the >>>> Apache Incubator. >>>> >>>> Apache cTAKES entered the Incubator in June of 2012. We have made >>>> significant progress with the project since moving over to Apache. We >>>> currently have 18 committers listed on our status page at [1] including >>>> over 10 which accepted after the podling was formed. >>>> >>>> During incubation, cTAKES has : >>>> * Produced 1 Release >>>> * Added 10 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community >>>> activities >>>> * Cleared IP on code >>>> * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases in a >>>> community process and started working on that [2] >>>> * The community of Apache cTAKES is active, healthy, and growing and has >>>> demonstrated the ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices. >>>> >>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ctakes >>>> [2] >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES#selectedTab=com.atlass >>>> i an.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aroadmap-panel >
