On 5/22/07, Boniface Kabaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the information guys. Not good PR for Java & OSS to a lay > person.
I disagree, I have seen no mention of java on the news. To the lay person its just a hidious waste of money with longer queues. I guess it is an architectural design & a software methodology issue at > fault here and Java & OSS have just gotten caught up in the crossfire. Not > enough to just know to program. Take into account they won this contract back in 2001, its taken 6 years to complete...My feeling is usually poor managers. Its not like you have 15 crack programmers building a system the way they envision it should work. It's more interfacing with legacy(which I have picked on the news) systems and understanding how those systems work(ala http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/farecompare/). Business analysts are supposed to gather those requirements and put them into technical facts for the programmers. If your programmers don't understand the problem space(in context of what the client expects) then how are you going to deliver a product they are happy with. Tho the problems on the news are more related to actual reliability, that should of been picked up in the lab. On 5/22/07, Bobby Quinne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 5/21/07, Alwyn Schoeman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm sorry, but open source != huge budget, not at the service levels > > > they are achieving. > > > So I would assume 99% of the budget went into pockets. > > > > > > Not strictly true, assuming there was any due diligence on the > > technology selection it could be OSS could come out better int erms of > > productivity, performance and not wholly on cost. However that being said, > > I agree with your statement about kickbacks :-) > > > > On 5/21/07, Jeff Mutonho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/21/07, Boniface Kabaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Just want to ask a question about the eNatis. I was listening on > > > > the radio > > > > > while driving home to the eNatis guy saying something like they > > > > have > > > > > increased their server capacity and that it should sort out the > > > > current > > > > > problems they are experiencing. They actually had to take the > > > > system offline > > > > > to do that! It struck me like they were having some serious > > > > scalability > > > > > issues and just wondered why these tests were not made during > > > > development > > > > > considering the budget they had. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, just out of curiosity, does anybody on this forum know > > > > what > > > > > technology is behind eNatis, ie J2EE, .NET, CORBA or some > > > > proprietary > > > > > client/server or internet technology? > > > > > > > > > > For those that have been too busy hacking away at your projects > > > > to notice > > > > > what is going on, eNatis is the Government's new electronic > > > > national traffic > > > > > information system that is supposed to solve most of the problems > > > > in the > > > > > traffic department that deal with vehicle registration and all, > > > > bringing in > > > > > benefits like transactions processing through ATMs and the > > > > internet. > > > > > > > > > > Boniface > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the following point you in the right direction? > > > > > > > > 1)http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jsp?forum=83&thread=222641 > > > > > > > > 2)"Vorster explains eNatis is based on "free and open source > > > > software" > > > > and the "open source footprint of the project is constantly > > > > increased". Familiar software includes Java and RedHat Enterprise > > > > Linux as the operating system for application servers in the data > > > > centre and disaster recovery centre, as well as in the fault-logging > > > > > > > > system, and JasperReports as report-generating technology." > > > > > > > > (http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2007/0704231035.asp?S=IT%20in%20Government&A=ITG&O=FRGN > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Don't take the name of root in vain." > > > > > > > > Jeff Mutonho > > > > Cape Town > > > > South Africa > > > > > > > > GoogleTalk : ejbengine > > > > Skype : ejbengine > > > > Registered Linux user number 366042 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Alwyn Schoeman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > If you have something tough, give it to the Americans. If you have > > something difficult, give it to the Indians. 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