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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Alice
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:44 AM
To: CTJUG Forum
Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Value of SCDJWS


Hi Noel,

This is Alice, Executive - Business Development from Daffodil Software
Ltd, based in New Delhi ,India.

I was going through CTJUG Forum and found that your company is one
stop shop for any IT requirements. This focus presents tremendous
opportunity between our companies to establish a mutual association
towards IT off shoring.

We are a Software Development company and have been assisting and
working with clients like your's. Therefore, I would like to initiate
a discussion regarding a strategic partnership wherein we might assist
you in your development requirements. Please find below the details
about Daffodil Software and the kind of services we provide.


Daffodil Software is a 8 year mature, 100 person strong organization
based out of New Delhi, India. We provide deep software engineering
skills to the global software industry. We have a satisfied client
base of more than 70 companies spread across US , UAE and Europe.



Our service areas include bespoke software development and testing
services. We have a proficient team of IT professionals working in
Java/J2EE, .Net & LAMP technologies.



We are also working on few of the latest technologies like AJAX, JSF,
MS-Sharepoint and Web Services. We have experience of working in HTML,
CSS, Macromedia Flash, Microsoft Visual Studio.NET, C, C++, C#, XML,
SQL Server, MS-Access, scripting languages, ASP.NET, JSP and also have
proven expertise in areas such as shopping cart integration, dynamic
websites, CMS etc. We also have enough experience working on
commercial/open source shopping carts and CMS systems primarily in PHP
and ASP. Our team is comfortable working with OsCommerce, ZenCart,
Comersus, Typo3, Joomla, OpenCms and Mambo.

 We have developed RAD tool which is developed using Google Web
Toolkit (GWT) and is an open source Java development framework -
http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/overview.html

We have also developed our products and various client applications
using JAVA. Please find below links to go through them.

You can go through the link
http://solutions.daffodilsw.com/daffodil-portfolio.html#7
to view our product portfolio & the link
http://solutions.daffodilsw.com/java-technologies.html
to view details providing examples of applications developed in JAVA.



These details provide you with evidence regarding our JAVA competency.


As your company is also into same technological domain, I foresee a
business synergy where both the companies can have mutual benefits
through a strategic alliance. We would like to present to you a Team
of Developers here in our Indian development Center, working on your
Time Zone and acting as "Your IT TEAM".

We understand that the decision to go for offshore operations has
always been a major breakthrough for IT companies. Our company would
like to offer you the time tested, cost effective Offshore Development
Center (ODC) services at minimum of risk and the maximum ROI.



On business models front we have two working models:



   Fixed Price Model: In this case you provide detailed specification
(SRS) of your requirements and we in turn, provide you with estimate
in terms of Time and Cost.



  Monthly Model: When the client's requirement is on a continuous
basis then we offer dedicated resource(s) to the client who works as
the virtual employee of the client and adheres to his development
guidelines and timelines. The billing in this model is done on advance
monthly basis.

Rates



Service
 Hourly Rate
 Monthly Rate (176 hrs)

Software Development (Java & .NET)
 14 USD/hr
 2400 USD

Software Development (PHP)
 14 USD/hr
 2400 USD

Testing Services
 12 USD/hr
 2000 USD

Web Designing
 10 USD/hr
 1600 USD



Here our main intention is to build a long term business relationship
and few hundered $$$ here and there does not make much of a
difference. We are keen to start a Project and show our capabilities
as a long term IT Patner.

We are comfortable to execute this project. Currently we do have
expertise resources in the technologies you needed (JAVA) as we have
hired it depending on the headcount required. Let me know your
feedback regarding this and will then move to another phase. Technical
telecon is a better option for understanding of the project. There
might be some misunderstanding in the scope of the project in our end.
Kindly let me know your comfortable timings for the same.

You can go through the followling link to view our portfolio:
http://www.daffodilsolutions.com/daffodil-portfolio.html


You are welcome to visit our website www.daffodilsolutions.com for
more information.

Let me know if there is any opportunity for us wherein we can assist
you. If required I can pass onto some of our references to you and can
forward some resumes for your review.

If this is of interest to you and you think there are some avenues
where we may add value to your business processes, I would be more
than glad to schedule a telecon to explore this association and to
extend a discussion regarding how Daffodil Solutions can assist you in
the development & designing of cost effective and quality solutions
and thus have a strategic partnership between our two companies
wherein we act as your offshore software development partner.



 Looking forward to hear from you.



Thanks & Regards,

Alice . A | Executive - Business Development
Daffodil Software Ltd
Global VOIP: +1-650-557-2134 | +44 0208 144 6737 | +61 03 9016 4213
Fax: +91-124-414-5801
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype id: alice_daffodil
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Web:  www.daffodilsolutions.com


On Dec 6 2007, 5:50 pm, Noel Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> To be blunt, not that much.
>
> When we hire people, we tend to want a 3-year degree (university or
> tech) of some kind.
>
> If the person is smart, we don't even care if they've never seen Java.
>
> The thing is, if the person understands the core concepts of
programming
> and computers, teaching them Java is reasonably easy.
>
> But to teach a person those core concepts is hard. Obviously there are
> exceptions - but as a generalisation, that's how it works.
>
> And also, we don't generally rate the BCom.Informatics courses
> (university & tech) very highly when it comes to pure programming.
> We prefer BSc of some kind.
>
> Regards, Noel.
>
> William Reid wrote:
> > Hi
>
> > I would like to know what's the value of Sun Certifications period.
I
> > am certified as a Java Programmer, Web Component Developer and
> > Business Component Developer. I scored above 80% on all the exams. I
> > got certified in 2004 and 2005.
>
> > However, it's very difficult for me find a Java position. I'm
> > currently working as a Systems-\Business Analyst\Programmer\Network
> > Admin, but I want to focus purely on Java Development.
>
> > It's seems companies refuse to offer you a position unless you have
a
> > degree. I have just registered for a BCom (Informatics) course at
> > Unisa, hope it will help....
>
> > My question ultimately is, how worthy is a Sun Java Certification?
>
> > On Dec 6, 2007 1:49 PM, Carl Woermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> >     I would rather spend money on the web component developer cert
if any
> >     - I stand to be corrected, but there have been huge improvements
to
> >     the way web services are deployed and developed - I suspect that
the
> >     exam concentrates on rather low level implementation issues that
were
> >     useful if you had to "roll your own" (esp 3 years ago) or were
forced
> >     to use the standard J2ee toolkit implementations - for an
example look
> >     at the way EJB3 web services are implemented  -simple annotation
does
> >     80% of the trick - muuuuch easier than using JAXP JAXB etc -
since
> >     all
> >     that plumbing is now hidden from us mere mortals..
>
> >     On Dec 6, 2007 1:26 PM, Fritz Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> >     > Hi all,
>
> >     > Does anyone here know anything about the Sun Certified
Developer
> >     for
> >     > Java Web Services? Specifically its value compared to the
other Sun
> >     > certs, and whether it is worth spending the money.
>
> >     > Regards,
> >     > Fritz


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