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On Jan 31, 2008 9:00 AM, Brian Silberbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> banned people can't hear you :)
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> On Jan 31, 2008 8:55 AM, Enrico Goosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, you can stop spamming the list already!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Alice
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:44 AM
> > To: CTJUG Forum
> > Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Value of SCDJWS
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Noel,
> >
> > This is Alice, Executive - Business Development from Daffodil Software
> > Ltd, based in New Delhi ,India.
> >
> > I was going through CTJUG Forum and found that your company is one
> > stop shop for any IT requirements. This focus presents tremendous
> > opportunity between our companies to establish a mutual association
> > towards IT off shoring.
> >
> > We are a Software Development company and have been assisting and
> > working with clients like your's. Therefore, I would like to initiate
> > a discussion regarding a strategic partnership wherein we might assist
> > you in your development requirements. Please find below the details
> > about Daffodil Software and the kind of services we provide.
> >
> >
> > Daffodil Software is a 8 year mature, 100 person strong organization
> > based out of New Delhi, India. We provide deep software engineering
> > skills to the global software industry. We have a satisfied client
> > base of more than 70 companies spread across US , UAE and Europe.
> >
> >
> >
> > Our service areas include bespoke software development and testing
> > services. We have a proficient team of IT professionals working in
> > Java/J2EE, .Net & LAMP technologies.
> >
> >
> >
> > We are also working on few of the latest technologies like AJAX, JSF,
> > MS-Sharepoint and Web Services. We have experience of working in HTML,
> > CSS, Macromedia Flash, Microsoft Visual Studio.NET, C, C++, C#, XML,
> > SQL Server, MS-Access, scripting languages, ASP.NET, JSP and also have
> > proven expertise in areas such as shopping cart integration, dynamic
> > websites, CMS etc. We also have enough experience working on
> > commercial/open source shopping carts and CMS systems primarily in PHP
> > and ASP. Our team is comfortable working with OsCommerce, ZenCart,
> > Comersus, Typo3, Joomla, OpenCms and Mambo.
> >
> >  We have developed RAD tool which is developed using Google Web
> > Toolkit (GWT) and is an open source Java development framework -
> > http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/overview.html
> >
> > We have also developed our products and various client applications
> > using JAVA. Please find below links to go through them.
> >
> > You can go through the link
> > http://solutions.daffodilsw.com/daffodil-portfolio.html#7
> > to view our product portfolio & the link
> > http://solutions.daffodilsw.com/java-technologies.html
> > to view details providing examples of applications developed in JAVA.
> >
> >
> >
> > These details provide you with evidence regarding our JAVA competency.
> >
> >
> > As your company is also into same technological domain, I foresee a
> > business synergy where both the companies can have mutual benefits
> > through a strategic alliance. We would like to present to you a Team
> > of Developers here in our Indian development Center, working on your
> > Time Zone and acting as "Your IT TEAM".
> >
> > We understand that the decision to go for offshore operations has
> > always been a major breakthrough for IT companies. Our company would
> > like to offer you the time tested, cost effective Offshore Development
> > Center (ODC) services at minimum of risk and the maximum ROI.
> >
> >
> >
> > On business models front we have two working models:
> >
> >
> >
> >    Fixed Price Model: In this case you provide detailed specification
> > (SRS) of your requirements and we in turn, provide you with estimate
> > in terms of Time and Cost.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Monthly Model: When the client's requirement is on a continuous
> > basis then we offer dedicated resource(s) to the client who works as
> > the virtual employee of the client and adheres to his development
> > guidelines and timelines. The billing in this model is done on advance
> > monthly basis.
> >
> > Rates
> >
> >
> >
> > Service
> >  Hourly Rate
> >  Monthly Rate (176 hrs)
> >
> > Software Development (Java & .NET)
> >  14 USD/hr
> >  2400 USD
> >
> > Software Development (PHP)
> >  14 USD/hr
> >  2400 USD
> >
> > Testing Services
> >  12 USD/hr
> >  2000 USD
> >
> > Web Designing
> >  10 USD/hr
> >  1600 USD
> >
> >
> >
> > Here our main intention is to build a long term business relationship
> > and few hundered $$$ here and there does not make much of a
> > difference. We are keen to start a Project and show our capabilities
> > as a long term IT Patner.
> >
> > We are comfortable to execute this project. Currently we do have
> > expertise resources in the technologies you needed (JAVA) as we have
> > hired it depending on the headcount required. Let me know your
> > feedback regarding this and will then move to another phase. Technical
> > telecon is a better option for understanding of the project. There
> > might be some misunderstanding in the scope of the project in our end.
> > Kindly let me know your comfortable timings for the same.
> >
> > You can go through the followling link to view our portfolio:
> > http://www.daffodilsolutions.com/daffodil-portfolio.html
> >
> >
> > You are welcome to visit our website www.daffodilsolutions.com for
> > more information.
> >
> > Let me know if there is any opportunity for us wherein we can assist
> > you. If required I can pass onto some of our references to you and can
> > forward some resumes for your review.
> >
> > If this is of interest to you and you think there are some avenues
> > where we may add value to your business processes, I would be more
> > than glad to schedule a telecon to explore this association and to
> > extend a discussion regarding how Daffodil Solutions can assist you in
> > the development & designing of cost effective and quality solutions
> > and thus have a strategic partnership between our two companies
> > wherein we act as your offshore software development partner.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Looking forward to hear from you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> >
> > Alice . A | Executive - Business Development
> > Daffodil Software Ltd
> > Global VOIP: +1-650-557-2134 | +44 0208 144 6737 | +61 03 9016 4213
> > Fax: +91-124-414-5801
> > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Skype id: alice_daffodil
> > MSN IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Web:  www.daffodilsolutions.com
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6 2007, 5:50 pm, Noel Grandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > To be blunt, not that much.
> > >
> > > When we hire people, we tend to want a 3-year degree (university or
> > > tech) of some kind.
> > >
> > > If the person is smart, we don't even care if they've never seen Java.
> > >
> > > The thing is, if the person understands the core concepts of
> > programming
> > > and computers, teaching them Java is reasonably easy.
> > >
> > > But to teach a person those core concepts is hard. Obviously there are
> > > exceptions - but as a generalisation, that's how it works.
> > >
> > > And also, we don't generally rate the BCom.Informatics courses
> > > (university & tech) very highly when it comes to pure programming.
> > > We prefer BSc of some kind.
> > >
> > > Regards, Noel.
> > >
> > > William Reid wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > >
> > > > I would like to know what's the value of Sun Certifications period.
> > I
> > > > am certified as a Java Programmer, Web Component Developer and
> > > > Business Component Developer. I scored above 80% on all the exams. I
> > > > got certified in 2004 and 2005.
> > >
> > > > However, it's very difficult for me find a Java position. I'm
> > > > currently working as a Systems-\Business Analyst\Programmer\Network
> > > > Admin, but I want to focus purely on Java Development.
> > >
> > > > It's seems companies refuse to offer you a position unless you have
> > a
> > > > degree. I have just registered for a BCom (Informatics) course at
> > > > Unisa, hope it will help....
> > >
> > > > My question ultimately is, how worthy is a Sun Java Certification?
> > >
> > > > On Dec 6, 2007 1:49 PM, Carl Woermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >     I would rather spend money on the web component developer cert
> > if any
> > > >     - I stand to be corrected, but there have been huge improvements
> > to
> > > >     the way web services are deployed and developed - I suspect that
> > the
> > > >     exam concentrates on rather low level implementation issues that
> > were
> > > >     useful if you had to "roll your own" (esp 3 years ago) or were
> > forced
> > > >     to use the standard J2ee toolkit implementations - for an
> > example look
> > > >     at the way EJB3 web services are implemented  -simple annotation
> > does
> > > >     80% of the trick - muuuuch easier than using JAXP JAXB etc -
> > since
> > > >     all
> > > >     that plumbing is now hidden from us mere mortals..
> > >
> > > >     On Dec 6, 2007 1:26 PM, Fritz Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >     > Hi all,
> > >
> > > >     > Does anyone here know anything about the Sun Certified
> > Developer
> > > >     for
> > > >     > Java Web Services? Specifically its value compared to the
> > other Sun
> > > >     > certs, and whether it is worth spending the money.
> > >
> > > >     > Regards,
> > > >     > Fritz
> >
> >
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