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(Holocaust deniers) to overtake the list and jam up all
communication on it perverting it to the exclusive discussion
of their own twisted views.
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When people disagree with others, how is theirs "twisted"
views?
When anyone is telling their story they bring "proofs" to
the table to make their case.
Who that proof comes from, how smart or goofy they are
means nothing ... in the arena of ideas, there are people
who bring proofs and debunk "proofs" and there are those
who must change the issues by talking about something
or someone else.
In the examination of this issue there are these questions:
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#1 Were this group of people singled out because
a) Their religion
b) Their physical heredity
d) Because they hoarded wealth
e) Because they billed them selves superior to the scum around them
f) They cheated and took advantage of less fortunate people around
them in a great depression.
For the answer to these questions, one need not read the one
sided propaganda the world has been hearing for the last 50 years.
One needs to go to Germany in the 15 year period before WW2
and begin to dig up newspaper articles, "Jewish" writings and
court records to understand if they were poor little victims or if they
were a corrupt hated people who brought hate on themselves
at the time when other Germans around them were going through
great suffering.
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#2 In Germany, there were Hindus, Buddhist and many other
such religions, so I would ask you why no other religions were
singled out for the ovens?
Were these "Jews" singled out because of their religion or because
they were a filthy/evil people?
As I have looked around the world and have seen "filthy people",
the thing I have taken into account is that people are the same
every where. It is when evil/greedy leaders become their leaders
that they enter into their contract of evil.
The reason most people make themselves champion of the
"jews" is because they have been taught that they must suck up
to the Israelites in order to get in tight with God.
It is essential to understand the identity of Jews according to
the bible to understand how master cons conspire to control
wealth and power.
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#3 As far as physical Jews, were those German/Jews any
more Jewish than any other Germans?
In order to know this one would have to:
a) Trace the family lines of all those "Jews" to see if ANY
Jew in their family history ever married or had children
with non "jews"
b) Trace the families of all those "Germans" and see if
any of those "Germans" had ever married or had children
with "Jews"
c) Look through all marriage records back through the
history of Germany.
d) Check to see how those "Jews" got the family names
of Europeans/Germans.
e) Begin to check the dna of those "Jews" and see if they
are any more "Jewish" then any other German.
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#4 "Christians" think of "Jews" as being some kind of holy
Israelites with their scrolls and spouting the OT.
I think there were almost a billion people killed in ww2,
so why is anyone concerned with a bitty 6 million?
* Because after ww2, the "jews" have bombarded the
world with their one sided propaganda and movies.
* Because "Christians" Identify them as being God's
holy little troopers.
a) Take a look at your OT and know that modern "Jews"
have nothing to do with the religion of the Israelites.
b) Take a look at these "holy people" and know they
are drunks, murders, whores, dope users ... no different
than anyone else in the world.
c) In their attempts to get in tight with God, this segment
of "Christians" give support to those "Jews" who declare
that the Christian's hero (Christ) was a liar.
By mind control of goofy "Christians" these "Jews" extract
wealth from "ignorant infidels who follow a false messiah".
While "Christ was a liar or a myth" by the beliefs of the
"Jews" every time the "idiot Christians" come to Israel
with their money, those "Jews" are glad to house them
and show them where that "false Christ" walked.
IF these arguments are true, then you can begin to
understand how the "Jews" made themselves such a
hated group.
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By this line, I am sure there are people who are very angry.
It does not matter what is wrong with me and this argument
does not belong to me.
The arguments are the same no matter who presents them.
It is anyone's option to address the proofs/arguments and
poke holes in them or admit to the facts of those proofs.
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#5 Were "Jews" only hated by Germans?
Go back to pre ww2 and look through the newspapers
of America, South America, England, France, Russia
Poland ...
Were "Jews" only hated by Germans or were they
thought to be money grubbers who were hated
through out all of Europe.
You won't find this information by asking "Jews",
you can only find it by going to the records of the
pre ww2 European countries.
I saw a documentary on Poland and other surrounding
countries, where Europeans (who lived before ww2)
were interviewed on the topic of the "Jews".
Whether it was a fact or not, people through out all
Europeans perceived "Jews" to be money grubbing
cheats who were hated.
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#6 Beyond any possible doubt there were masses of
innocent people who suffered and died. Why?
In all conflicts, innocent people are killed when they join
themselves with the perceived enemy.
For those who believe the bible, read it with you own
eyes. If it is true then the "Jews" killed masses of people
to take their land.
The commands included, kill every man, woman and
child... kill the sucklings... kill the fruit of their wombs.
While "Jews" glory in the bible stories of their wars and
slaughter of their enemy, when the same happens to
them it is a holocaust?
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#7 Who was killed in that "holocaust"? Why don't we
hear about the holocaust of 6 million Germans who were
killed?
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#8 Who were the killers? Why don't they research the family
lines of those soldiers and tell us about all those evil
Jewish/German butchers who were involved in the mass
murder?
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#9 People of all nations come into three categories
* Politician crack lickers, political parties ....
* those who go along to avoid punishment
* those who resist the forces of politicians at risk to their
own safety.
How many of those French/Germans, English/Germans ...
belonged to which group? and how many of those
Jew/Germans belonged to which group?
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#10 In that war more than twice as many Russians were
killed, so where are the museums and all the books about
the holocaust of the Russians?
The only reason the world believes the "Jews" were some
special little picked on victims, is because the wealth they
had to produce movies books and publish their one sided
propaganda.
War is hell and the reason why any segment of people killed
does not make them any more victim than anyone else.
Before you hear the sob stories of the "Jews" first hear the
screams of all other victims ... after all the "Jews" have
had their turn to tell their one sided propaganda for the last
50 years.
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#11 After this segment of mixed Europeans brought
hate on themselves through out of all Europe
(with the help of America, England, France... the UN)
They were given weapons and money to invade and
take over the nation in the middle east.
The "victims" became the "evil nazis". The owners
of that nation were killed and driven into other nations
to become refugees.
They joined with France and England in a plot to take
over Egypt's suez canal (and would have if it were not
for Russia).
Now these poor little "victims" ... when they hold the
power, it is the Palestinians who are the inferior people
who are forced to pay taxes in their own land but they
are not allowed to vote.
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The end question is, If (by heredity) they were no more Jewish
than the rest of the Germans AND if they did not follow the
Jewish religion, then was it:
A Jewish Holocaust or a German Holocaust?
... A segment of Germans who were killed because
of the hate they brought on themselves?
Poor little victims or evil greedy people who deserve what
they get?
It all depends on who is telling the story
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