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William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> You need to do some research on the subject, H. (with all due respect).
> The Canadian government is subsidizing their producers.
I don't care at all what the Canadian govm't subsidizes or doesn't subsidize. I would
be
delighted if they bought every grain of Canadian wheat and gave it to me free.
> Your remarks about agricultural subsidies demonstrates your basic lack of knowledge
>about
> conditions in the agricultural sector.
I freely admit to "lack of knowledge" about conditions in the agricultural sector.
However,
I don't have to have a great deal of knowledge to know that it is wrong for the govm't
to
take MY money, against my will, and give it to farmers. Anything beyond that
knowledge on
the subject of subsidies is immaterial.
By the way, I just read in this morning's Dallas Morning News that the U.S.
Agriculture Dept
(which has more employees than there are farmers in the U.S.) has "settled a lawsuit"
with
Negro farmers, in which the "farmers" will get a $50,000 cash award, plus all debts to
the
govm't will be canceled, which are estimated to be between $75,000 and $100,000 each.
Do I
have to be more knowlegable than that to know that I'm being screwed?
> The reason why you should "buy American" is quite simple. Your dollars are going to
> insure the continued productivity of our domestic economy.
You've taken the bait, I see. You're telling me that I have some obligation to support
people who otherwise cannot make a living at their chosen profession. Sir, I am not
responsible for their inept farming or business practices, nor for their choice of how
to
make a living. They aren't responsible for mine either, by the way.
> The wheat farmers are Americans who pay taxes, send their kids off to war
> to protect the country.
I pay my taxes, too... But I don't get a subsidy from farmers so I can be
self-employed...
And as for sending their kids off to war, then they are stupid to boot. I am not
responsible for other peoples' stupidity.
> If the wheat farmers do well economically, rural America does well...
So, I should pay higher prices than the free market will bear.... is that right? So
"rural
America will do well"??? And, by the same token, I should pay higher prices for
automobiles
so the United Autoworkers will do well? And exhorbitant taxes to support inferior
schools
so the teachers "will do well?" Give me a break!
> The agricultural sector supports thousands of small businesses throughout the
>American
> Midwest. Each dollar that is spent in a rural community is "rolled over" several
>times
> through that community.
Good... Spend your own dollars, and stop taking mine... If that's your objective, go
right
ahead... But don't force me support people who don't give a damn whether or not I have
to
pay too much for what I buy.
> When you buy American products, you are supporting your country. It's that simple.
Yep... That's one of the most "simple" things a person could say....
> You are indirectly the beneficiary of the economic wellbeing of your fellow citizens.
Maybe so, but I am DIRECTLY the victim of having my money extorted from me. Anytime
someone
starts talking about how I will benefit from someone else's govm't support, I
automatically
reach for my wallet.
> The farmers pay taxes that support basic services like schools, highways, medical
> services...
Then they're being conned, too... Welcome to the club.
> If your fellow citizens go under economically, eventually, YOU will be asked to pay
>for
> their welfare.
"Eventually, my ass!" I'm already being FORCED to pay for their welfare. I don't
recall
being "asked."
> Their economic distress undermines your own economic security. How so?
They need to get a job that pays a living without extorting my money to subsidize their
lifestyle...
> Re-read your American history. Take a look at the American Depression. When money is
> taken out of an economy, out of the pockets of ordinary working people, the system
> eventually collapses.
That's my point... "MONEY IS BEING TAKEN OUT OF MY POCKET".... and, you're right, the
system
will indeed collapse.
> Re: Your "tribal mentality" remarks. They are fundamentally racist and absurd.
Yeah, yeah... You haven't a clue about who I am or what my ideas about "race" are. As
for
the results, which is what I commented on, do you deny it?
> First of all, Native Americans did not have a "money" economy.
That's because they didn't have any money.... Everything is "the property of the
tribe."
That's why they were living in tents, and why they now live in hovels. The point is,
they
created no wealth, and having no one the tax, they were destitute.
> Re: "God made animals for us" comments. They're made for the plate? An
> interesting argument. I would only point out that we might consider some
> healthier, "kinder and gentler" (borrowing a phrase) ways of taking care
> of our protein needs. Just a thought. But of course we could follow PJ
> O'Rourke's advice and eat the rich.
You eat whatever you wish... I don't care what you eat... or who, for that matter.
Just
don't expect me to pay your bills.
Hawk
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