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> For Carlene
> Up till now you have contributed nothing to this list besides "Personal
> Opinion".
Excuse me !!! Personal opinion...is it personal opinion that there have been KKK
activities up north....
Okay....here is some documentation
Chicago Historical Information
1919: Race Riots
On the afternoon of July 27, 1919, Eugene Williams, a black youth, drowned
of exhaustion off the 29th Street beach. A stone throwing melee between
blacks and whites on the beach prevented the boy from coming ashore
safely. After clinging to a railroad tie for a lengthy period, he drowned when he
no longer had the strength to hold on. This was the finding of the Cook County
Coroner's Office after an inquest was held into the cause of death. But false
reports that he had been stoned to death led to five days of rioting in Chicago
that claimed the lives of a total of 23 blacks and 15 whites, with 291 wounded
and maimed.
The Coroner's Office spent 70 day sessions and 20 night sessions on
inquest work and in examining 450 witnesses. Those findings, reported in the
Coroner's Report of 1919 are followed by his recommendations to deal with
the festering social and economic conditions that were the precipitating
factors leading to the riots.
Sources:
Hoffman, Peter M. The Race Riots. Published as the: Cook County
(Ill.). Coroner's Office. Biennial Report 1918-1919 and Official
Record of Inquests on the Victims of the Race Riots of July and
August, 1919.
Deaths, Disturbances, Disasters and Disorders in Chicago
Compiled by Reference Librarians Ellen O'Brien and Lyle Benedict
Municipal Reference Collection, Chicago Public Library
Last Updated: 3/97
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Now what other opinions did I give out...let me look.
Constitutionally, they should of been allowed to secede,
That is a fact...it was constitutionally correct that they had the right to
secede,,,look at the documents issued during the Buchanann administration...do you
want urls...I will get them for you.
but I think what might have happened here, is Lincoln may have thought it was a
minor rebellion led by a few. Not until he got forces out, did he realize how
dedicated each southron was and is dedicated to the cause.
This is opinion......
The North and the South had and still has a different culture,
economic structure, and I believe due to these reasons ...misunderstanding
occurred.
Fact...there cultures, economic structures were and are different...the movement
of the northerners down there may be changing their culture.
It is interesting to note, the people selling the slaves were black men
themselves,
Fact
and the one slave owner who had the most slaves was a Haitian that lived in
Louisiana.
Fact
One must also remember there were white slaves.
Fact
well slaves were expensive....and expensive to
maintain(slavery would have faded out on its own)
Fact
It was the over-seers that were the culprits, people who
learned how to abuse their power. But if the were caught...many times it was
there behind.
Fact
Slavery as we see it, in the situation that we are in is evil,
we were raised that way, but let me throw out this one question on this, how can
we today dare judge a society of yesterday...without understanding the culture,
and the mores of that society.
Opinion
Many black folk were like family and treated as of such.
Fact......
Only 5% were slave owners, the war was over preservation of
cultures on both sides.
Fact
Economics is what one looks at, it was becoming uneconomical
to have slaves, and was going out.
Opinion
Those that owned the slaves would have made this transition from
slavery to freeman a lot more smoother, many slaves were
thrown out in the streets, did not have a place to go, the mighty liberals of
their day did not have a plan...the owners would have.
Opinion
> You have NO comprehension of what you are
> talking about when you start prattling about how "corrupted"
the south
>
Fact
Lee and others freed their slaves? Yes, there were economic reasons
to believe slavery would end. But there were other forces that would have ended
it as well.
Now I did this with one post, could go back and do it with others...I am searching
and have been for some time...I have the urls that can back up everything I stated
as a fact and will if so requested...
>
> Talking about the underlying themes of the Bible is acceptable but quoting a
> sheep type mentality will make many of us bored "At Great Speed"
>
Did I do this ??? I don't think so.
>
> "This list is "Food For Thought" research so again Substance—not soapboxing! .
Soapboxing ???
>
>
> I am not attacking you personally or attacking at all! You have read the
> theme (or thread) of this list and you are allowed to say what ever you want
> (Free Speech) as long as you can come up with different citations.
HUH ?
> Do not treat me as if I can not read or research or as if you are afraid that I
>
> might find out something different.
I don't and won't...
>
I have a lot of respect for you as I do others on this list...and hope to learn
from you all, however, that post was not well thought out...and if it would of
been submitted to my list....oh well...that is my list.
Looking at other posts of hers she seems to have a lot on the ball, but this post
appeared to be greatly flawed.
Carlene
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