-Caveat Lector-
I don't believe this sh++ ! It is so juvenile, I don't know much about this
person, but no one should be badgered like this, is this acceptable on this list
? If so I suppose I could do this too....where are you coming from...take it
private.(the only reason my private post got sent to the list, is because I was an
oversight, received some bad news and my concentration was not there)
But this is a deliberate attempt to disrupt this list, which I have been accused
of.
Carlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Howdy Hypocrite,
>
> Whatsa matter, ain't got time to reply to my queries?
>
> So, pray tell, what are the "proper hermaneutical procedures"? Are they
> consistent?
>
> Hypocrite Hawk sez:
>
> "But, the passage you quoted said nothing about it being "evil" or "wrong" for
> the
> Hebrews to be held in bondage."
>
> So let, us review, unless Hypocrite Hawk, can determine through "proper
> hermaneutical procedures" if the Bible says an action is 'evil' or 'wrong'.
>
> Do you have a list of "evil" or "wrong", oh, old, wise one?
>
> I am not offended by Biblical texts, but by hypocrites that abuse them.
>
> Oh, Hypocrite, you didn't answer my query about your intel secret ops? Cat got
> your tongue?
>
> What a . . . chauvanistic goober.
>
> Om
> k
>
> In a message dated 1/13/99 10:47:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >-Caveat Lector-
> >
> >Alamaine Ratliff wrote:
> >
> >> -Caveat Lector-
> >>
> >> Okay, I'll bite. Biblical documentation (courtesy NIV) at
> >>
> >> Matt 6 (esp 6:5) {long, I won't reproduce -- especially because of the
> >> written word}
> >
> >Don't see any connection to slavery.
> >
> >> John 8:31ff: "To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold
> >> to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth,
> >> and the truth will set you free." They answered him, "We are Abraham's
> >> descendants and have never been slaves on anyone. How can you say we shall
> >> be set free?"
> >
> >Apparently these fellows had never been slaves, and said so.. They also
> apparently
> >"missed the point," that Jesus wasn't talking about literal/physical
> slavery..
> >which you also seem to have missed.
> >
> >> Acts 7:6ff: "G*d spoke to him {Abraham} in this way: 'Your descendants
> >> will be strangers in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and
> >> mistreated four hundred years. But I will punish the nation they serve as
> >> slaves,' G*d said, 'and afterward they will come out of that country and
> >> worship me in this place.' Then he gave Abraham the convenant of
> >> circumcision. And Abraham became the father of Isaac and circumcised him
> >> eight days after his birth. Later Isaac became the father of Jacob, and
> >> Jacob became the father of the twelve patriarchs."
> >>
> >> I stumbled onto the above after looking through my Strong's Exhaustive
> >> Concordance of the Bible. There's not a bunch on "slave" or "slavery" but
> >> more on "bondage" which translates back to "slavery" in the NIV. The
> >> Matthew part was what I originally intended to offer but the rest just came
> >> along.
> >
> >But, the passage you quoted said nothing about it being "evil" or "wrong" for
> the
> >Hebrews to be held in bondage. It merely said that they WOULD be, and that
> Egypt
> >WOULD be punished, which it was... But the punishment was not because the
> Hebrews
> >were slaves there, rather because Pharoah did not release them when God told
> him
> >to... It was his (1) unreasonable harshness to the Hebrew slaves, and (2) his
> >refusal to let them go when directed -- Read it in context and this becomes
> >clear. There was a time (read the part about Joseph) when God BLESSED Egypt
> >because of Pharaoh's relationship (master over slave) with Joseph.
> >
> >> I really lean more toward Celtic Buddhism so these forays into Xtian
> >> theological texts is rather illuminating.
> >
> >That's good... Since some of these folks are offended by biblical texts, I
> would
> >be very glad to discuss the above passages, or any others, with you... Could
> be
> >my
> >"take" on them is 100% wrong... but maybe I am not wrong at all. You be the
> >judge, after having an opportunity to study the passages using proper
> >hermaneutical procedures. In looking through your concordance, don't look
> for
> >"slave" but rather "servant" which IS a slave unless it says "hired" servant.
> >
> >Hawk
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