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Ric Carter wrote:
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> From: My Heart's In Dixie! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> >I can speak on Confederate General Robert E. Lee. I honored his birthday
> >>
> >> Confederates broke the oaths they swore to the Constitution, turned
> >> traitor to their nation - and their descendants haven't realized yet
> >> that they lost.
> >
> >In those days, Southrons always viewed their "nation" their "country" as
> >the State in which they lived. They did not view a collective society of
> >States as their "nation/country."
>
> You of course have evidence supporting this contention, eh? Did
> Andrew Jackson of South Carolina and Tennessee, John C. Calhoun of
> South Carolina, Henry Clay of Virginia and Kentucky, James Polk of
> Tennessee, Zachary Taylor of Louisiana, John Tyler of Virginia, not
> think of themselves as citizens and public servents of the American
> nation? "I know no South, no North, no East, no West, to which I
> owe any allegiance," said Henry Clay. Did not they, and Jefferson
> Davis and Robert Lee and their cohorts, all pledge oaths to support
> and defend the Constitution of the United States, their nation?
> Are not those who broke those oaths and waged war upon their nation,
> traitors? Do you support insurrection and treason?
>
Yes, they did pledge oaths to support and defend the Constitution as did
Lincoln. They full filled their oath by ending their association with
the federal government when their state legally left the union. As I
have said before, none of the Confederate officers or official were
prosecuted by the federal government for treason because it was known by
the federal officials that the Supreme Court would rule that no treason
had taken place. As for Lincoln, his army won so he was never taken to
court for treason, though it could be argued that he did, in fact, break
his oath by attacking another country without a declaration of war by
the Congress.
> >they fought for their State against the Lincoln usurpers who invaded them.
>
> I see, the southern attack on Ft. Sumter, which inaugurated the
> war, was an invasion by the North? How curious...
>
The Confederate government had offered to purchase the fort and was in
negotiations when Lincoln sent an armada to Charleston to either provoke
an attack or put the opposing Confederate armements in a cross fire.
Lincoln claimed that the naval group was only for provisioning, but the
Confederate government had offered all along to provision the fort
during negotiations. The attack on Ft. Sumpter was clearly provoked.
Howard Davis
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