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SnoOwl:

For the greater part of your post, we are in full agreement. Our national
sense of priority has become a cruel joke, and one for which we will all
pay dearly at some time or another. What I was "scared of" was the argument
I thought you were adopting, and an argument that many have used before:
abortion is a better "alternative" than poverty (as if these were the only
two options).

Yes, the way we treat our children is abhorent; yes, the fact that our
children go to school in trailers while malnourished and abused is a scar
on our society which will be some time in healing--but I am hard-pressed to
see how retroactive "choice" will mitigate these crimes perpetrated upon
our youth. On this point, I respectfully agree to disagree.

Edward   ><>
>> Help me out here. Your argument is that, because there are poor, uneducated
>> and imprisoned youth, we should continue to have legalized abortion? To
>> extend this logic, is what you are saying that being poor should be
>> included among the Big Three exceptions to any potential ban on abortion?
>> PLEASE clarify! Sounds as if poverty warrants capital punishment.
>>
>> Even though I am opposed to abortion except in the three most notable cases
>> of rape, incest and endangerment (plus, possibly, one more), and were I to
>> consider changing my stance, your argument would scare the be-jesus out of
>> me!!
>
>One in four kids in America is now living in poverty. There are thousands
of children out
>there who need love and care. My point is that while everyone is railing
about killing
>babies, very few people want to take care of these babies after they're
born. Or really
>cares much what happens to them--in spite of all the morality talk about
"for the
>children." The US as a country is into building prisons--not schools. I'm
for taking care
>of the kids we've got...not bringing kids into the world that not even the
parents want or
>can care for. I think that the babies who are born should be wanted, and
that the
>parent or parents should feel they have the means to care for
them--financially and
>emotionally-- whether the parents are rich or poor.
>
>I also believe that women should have control over their bodies.Bringing a
fetus to term
>is a woman's decision to make. Birth control doesn't always work. People
are fallible.
>They make mistakes.
>
>I will not argue this with you or anyone. I don't believe women should
have abortions.
>No woman wants to have an abortion. But I think they should have the
choice....and be
>able to make that choice in safety. Bringing a fetus to term and giving it
up for adoption
>is another choice. I think it is as painful a choice, if not more, for a
woman, than having
>an abortion. There is a biological, physical, and hormonal bond between
mother and
>child that makes it very difficult for a woman to go through full
pregnancy,  have a baby
>and then give it away. I think this factor may be very difficult for men
to comprehend.
>But adoption is a choice women have. Abortion is another. I believe women
should
>have the choice.
>
>When abortion is illegal, women --both married and single women--continue
to make
>the choice to have abortions. The difference is that they are forced into
dangerous
>situations and many die.Wealthy women can always go to other states or
countries
>where abortion is legal. It is poor women who die.
>
>That's how I feel about it--whether it scares you or not.
>
>sno0wl
>
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