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Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Holocaust
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>You sure project your personal feelings to many people you haven't even
spoken
>too.
>
>Straight dweebism.
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>What's your agenda?
>
>Om
>K
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>In a message dated 12/12/98 8:14:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>I never said that YOU said or implied the collective guilt of the
enumerated
>>parties.
>>
>>I said that the enumerated parties perceive "the Holocaust" to be a
conscious
>>and premeditated campaign to insinuate or overtly assign guilt to them.
>>
>>If you don't think that is the case, then YOU have got some missionary
work
>>to do to
>>convince the enumerated parties that the "the Holocaust" isn't just a
>>campaign of
>>psychological aggression intended to shame or humiliate them into acceding
to
>>someone else's political agenda.
>>
>>
>>DBC
>
Damian,
In your conversations, there are two themes that continue to emerge - that
of guilt also phrased as shame or humiliation, and secondly, that very shame
being used as leverage to force an individual to do something.
Much has been written on the psychological aftermath concerning what
happened in W.W.II in Europe as with other wars and conquered peoples.
As an American, I experience this phenomena steming from what happened to
the indigenous people and the black community (slavery) and it will still be
many generations before all of these issues are finally resolved. Events of
this magnitude take centuries to resolve within a culture - even longer if
the "injured" people remain isolated from the larger community.
I grew up outside of Washington, D.C. (where there are many large black
communities) and I now live in the Southwest near several Indian
reservations. The communities are different - the dynamics are the same. I
have seen extreme behavior on both sides (white and non-white) in coping
with these dynamics. These behaviors from the white population range from
shouldering the entire "blame" and loosing themselves in platitudes and
servitude to militant opposition and blatant hate campaigns. The behaviors
I've observed from the non-white population range from submission with deep
resentment and hatred to playing on the guilty feelings some have and trying
to get "away" with everything they possibly can. These extreme behaviors
will continue until a balance, or rather, as resolution is finally reached.
The decision on the Anne Frank diary is likely an extreme move - a cultural
adjustment. There have been many prior to this and there will be many more.
It may not be to your liking - in which case write your letters of protest
however, from a larger perspective it is a predictable and inevitable course
of action by a society attempting to find equilibrium.
Hilary
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