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In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at
08:18:00AM -0600
Homosexuality -- in fact, any sexual activity between consenting
adults -- does not harm anyone (as long as the participants avoid
unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease). Sexual activity
-- the sharing of mutual pleasure -- is in fact beneficial: it
often brings people closer together, and it discharges energy
that otherwise might lead to frustration and anger.
The purpose of moral rules is to minimize harm to people, so that
all may live happily and successfully. Therefore the only basis
of morality that makes any sense is, "Do not harm anyone."
By this sane pro-human standard, homosexuality and homosexual
people are not immoral (as such) in any way.
The only reason some people believe they are immoral is the
influence of fundamentalist Judaeo-Christian religions. These
religions are in many ways profoundly anti-human; their leaders
and "holy" books have variously advocated and praised the
genocide of many millions of people, as well as the murder of
women who have sex before marriage, the murder of adherents of
other religions, and the practice of genital mutilation.
HIV/AIDS was spread in African nations, and in the male homosexual
population in the U.S., by vaccines that were contaminated with
the virus (probably intentionally). That is an appropriate topic
of discussion for this list. The spewing of murderous hatred
against harmless people, as motivated by fundamentalist religion,
is not.
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 08:18:00AM -0600, Ctrl wrote:
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>
>I can't believe that whining sniveling jizz gobbler (Svend Robinson) has
>been the incumbent politician for as long as he has. For as long as I can
>remember, he's done nothing but slap decent moral Canadians across the face
>time and time again.
>
>While I wish the man no ill, I must admit I'd be pleased to learn he's dying
>of AIDS.
>
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>From: "William Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: [CTRL] {attack} WARNING signs of the times: U.N. Group in
>'showdown' with religion (fwd)
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>> Subject: {attack} WARNING signs of the times: U.N. Group in 'showdown'
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>> Subj: U.N. group in 'showdown with religion'
>> Date: 8/7/03 11:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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>> U.N. group in 'showdown with religion'
>> Gathered homosexual leaders to sharpen 'rights' strategy worldwide
>>
>> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33984
>>
>> � 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
>>
>> Buoyed by growing political acceptance of homosexuals worldwide, a
>> United Nations group promoting "gay" and lesbian rights met in New York
>>
>> to sharpen a multi-pronged strategy that includes a "showdown with
>> religion."
>>
>> The meeting was sponsored by the U.N. Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual
>> Employees, known as UNGLOBE, a group officially recognized by the
>> worldwide body in 1996.
>>
>> At a forum Monday, attended briefly by U.N. Secretary General Kofi
>> Annan, panel members singled out Roman Catholics and evangelical
>> Protestants as opponents, according to the New York-based Catholic
>> Family and Human Rights Institute.
>>
>> Speakers included U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who urged Congress
>> to withhold support for a free trade agreement with Muslim-majority
>> Egypt because of its treatment of homosexuals.
>>
>> Paula Ettelbrick, executive director of the San Francisco-based
>> International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, or IGLHRC,
>> announced a coming "showdown with religion" and vowed Pope John Paul
>> II's "call to arms" against homosexual marriage would be successfully
>> combated.
>>
>> Another panel member, Princeton University professor Anthony Appiah,
>> wondered whether or not religion should be limited, as it poses a
>> "challenge" to the homosexual agenda.
>>
>> To thunderous applause, Svend Robinson, a member of the Canadian
>> parliament, told the Catholic Church to "clean up your own house"
>> before criticizing the morality of homosexuals.
>>
>> Robinson criticized Roman Catholic Bishop Frederick Henry of Calgary,
>> calling his actions in defense of traditional marriage "unbelievable."
>>
>> The deputy mocked "born again" Christians, asking, "Did they have to
>> come back again as themselves?"
>>
>> As WorldNetDaily reported, Robinson is the sponsor of a bill that would
>>
>> add sexual orientation as a protected category in Canada's genocide and
>>
>> hate crimes legislation. Opponents believe it would criminalize public
>> expression against homosexual behavior, including making quotations
>> from the Bible.
>>
>> The U.N. group that hosted the event is pressing the United Nations to
>> recognize same-sex couples and treat their partnerships as equal to
>> traditional marriages.
>>
>> Carol Bellamy, executive director of the U.N. Children's Fund, or
>> UNICEF, sent a message of support to the conference.
>>
>> Annan told panel members the world should become "much more tolerant
>> and compassionate."
>>
>> "I think what is important is that we should stress those positive
>> aspects in our society, the things that bring us together, and move
>> away from discrimination and persecution," the secretary general said.
>>
>> At a news conference last week, the Atlantic Monthly reported, Annan
>> was asked to comment on the debate over what constitutes a family.
>>
>> "I believe that individuals should be allowed to make their own choices
>>
>> and that we should be careful not to draw conclusions or adopt
>> prejudicial attitudes towards people for their choices and
>> preferences," he said. "That's not something I think this organization
>> should get involved in."
>>
>> Mark Malloch Brown, administrator of the U.N. Development Program, sent
>>
>> a statement to the organizers, stating, "Discrimination based on sexual
>>
>> orientation not only violates basic human rights but also hinders
>> development by immobilizing human capital, stifling expression and
>> limiting freedom of choice."
>>
>>
>>
>> U.N. Human Rights Commission meeting
>>
>>
>> The panel discussed ways to ensure the success of a resolution at
>> introduced at this year's U.N. Human Rights Commission to expand the
>> world body's definition of discrimination to include "sexual
>> orientation."
>>
>> Robinson blamed the Vatican for the resolution's failure and promised a
>>
>> global lobby effort to ensure victory next year.
>>
>> This year's resolution was sponsored by Brazil, but Robinson said a
>> "different champion" will promote it next time.
>>
>> Gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender lawmakers from around the world
>> will meet in San Diego this fall to coordinate their efforts, he noted.
>>
>> IGLHRC, the international group, distributed fliers at the meeting that
>>
>> listed laws it wants changed, including "sodomy, age of consent and
>> other 'sex-act' laws, laws on prostitution, laws penalizing those
>> wearing clothing of the opposite sex and laws on obscenity and
>> pornography."
>>
>> The group also is lobbying against "denial of marriage to same sex
>> partners, denial of marriage to transgendered people and laws on
>> parenting and adoption."
>>
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