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You might have something if "pleasure" were the sole component in a homo relationship. Unfortunately, it isn't and numerous emotional and psychological factors come into play. Homosexuals have extremely violent behaviour patterns beyond the 'norm'.

 

In warfare, special enthusiasm for violence, warfare, and domination was long ago demonstrated to be a quality associated with the most extreme style of butch homosexuality. Historians, in recognition of this association, mention the example of ancient Egyptian warriors, who raped enemy soldiers after defeating them in battle.

 

So too, the existence of homosexual rape, or at least serious exploitation, was a common practice in ancient Athens. The Greeks did not expect the passive partner in a homosexual relationship to derive physical pleasure from an encounter. Such claims suggest a pattern of butch homosexuals dominating weaker men.

Recognizing that they were the most ferocious fighters, Greek military strategists designated pairs of soldiers involved in homosexual relationships as combat teams.

A 1933 Nation article also discusses the Nazis' belief that the pure Aryans were descended from the Greeks. Recalling an event in Greek military history, it adds: "The 300 who held the pass of Thermopylae were 150 pairs of lovers."

Scientifically and pragmatically, homosexuality isn't something the human species and its plumbing are geared to – particularity its survival.

Perhaps down the track, as human science and genetics advance, technology will spawn some form of omni-sexual being and society will be convinced it is the preferred 'norm'.

 

In such a possible world, perhaps both homo's and hetro's will become the minority and even Fundi's and Fags will have to unite (was that a double entendre?) to be heard amidst the omni-sexual vox populi.

Self righteous religionists have always been hypocrites. Take the well-known New Testament narrative of the woman caught in adultery, a major sin which
necessitated the death by stoning of the female so discovered.

 

Rather than condemn the accused woman, Jesus turns the tables on her male religious accusers and denounces them as the more guilty party and the real law-breakers - the implication being that her male accusers were her adulterous lovers and sexual users. The guilty always find scapegoats.

Adultery, like most religious-sin crime, is not a crime whilst secret. Only when it reaches the public orb does it become real or as we Aussies would say, 'fair-dinkum' sin and hence punishable.

The pablum, 'do not harm anyone' is a little abstract and fascicle. Many Fag Fundi's are no less intolerant than their religious counterparts.

 

It could be argued scientifically, pragmatically and philosophically that Homo's harm the potential survival and existence of the human race.

 

Perspectives on morality and anti-moralit vary a lot and are extremely subjective - what is perceived as harm and pain in one group passes as not hurtful and pleasurable to another.

 

Societies in general are conservative, manipulated by “totem and taboo” and administered by the overseer prophets of Religion and of the State, namely priests and politicians. These rulers dissect and compartmentalise societal clusters, much like the Corporatists, so they have targeted prepacked messages and goods to sell to specific consumer audiences. Even formerly fragmented mobs will often unite in a common cause or enemy.

 

Dictators have a way of stirring and creating societal ire to enhance or pave the road to power. Perceived and manufactured dilemmas require solutions which Autocrats have up their sleeve.

 

In 1936 Heinrich Himmler, head of all police forces and the SS, established the Reich's Central Agency for the Struggle Against Homosexuality and Abortion. In 1943, after three years of preparation by the Ministries of the Interior and of Justice, the law entitled Protection of Marriage, Family, Motherhood called for the death penalty for “extreme cases”.

 

During times of social stress, humanity usually regresses into the idea of the family. In the 1920s, the Ku Klux Klan urged the nation to adopt family values and the return to old-time religion. Similarly, Adolf Hitler launched a family-values regimen. An aspect of Hitler's methodology centred on his ideas of motherhood.

 

Fanatics in the Ku Klux Klan, the Nazi Party, the Hezbollah, or any other intolerant organization refer to themselves as warriors often in religious terminology. As warriors, fanatics censor the thoughts of others and love to burn books – and people. In the modern United States new proponents of family values continue this tradition of fear and intolerance.

 

In Nazi Germany whilst the pink triangle was the badge which Nazis required homosexuals to wear in concentration camps other homosexuals socialised and benefited from both Hitler and his elite troupe. No hoi polloi homosexual plebeians mixing with hoity-toity Nazi gays.

 

In the early 1920s the central characters in Nazism were Adolf Hitler and Ernst Roehm, leader of the Sturmabteilung – the Storm Troopers.

 

Established in 1921, the SA was regarded by Roehm as a private army for the Nazi movement, and under his leadership its primary task became that of silencing Hitler's political opponents by means of violent intimidation. Hitler was very much aware of the fact that Roehm was openly and unapologetically homosexual.

 

It has been observed that aspects of the avowed ideology of the "entire movement," comprised of youth from which thousands of storm-troopers came, "was drenched through and through with homoerotic feeling and practice".

 

Wilhelm Reich commented that, “During the war it would be observed that those who had strong heterosexual commitments or had sublimated fully, rejected the war; by contrast, the most brutal, gung-ho types were those who regarded women as toilets, and who were either latently or manifestly homosexual”.

 

Of course, gay-lesbian-homo-ism is today as much a political pressure group as it often is an outré eruption of personal inner rage and perhaps a sign that the once oppressed desperately dream of being the oppressor.

 

Dave.

 

 

 



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> Homosexuality -- in fact, any sexual activity between consenting
> adults -- does not harm anyone (as long as the participants avoid
> unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease).  Sexual activity
> -- the sharing of mutual pleasure -- is in fact beneficial: it
> often brings people closer together, and it discharges energy
> that otherwise might lead to frustration and anger.
>
> The purpose of moral rules is to minimize harm to people, so that
> all may live happily and successfully.  Therefore the only basis
> of morality that makes any sense is, "Do not harm anyone."
>
> By this sane pro-human standard, homosexuality and homosexual
> people are not immoral (as such) in any way.
>
> The only reason some people believe they are immoral is the
> influence of fundamentalist Judaeo-Christian religions.  These
> religions are in many ways profoundly anti-human; their leaders
> and "holy" books have variously advocated and praised the
> genocide of many millions of people, as well as the murder of
> women who have sex before marriage, the murder of adherents of
> other religions, and the practice of genital mutilation.
>
> HIV/AIDS was spread in African nations, and in the male homosexual
> population in the U.S., by vaccines that were contaminated with
> the virus (probably intentionally).  That is an appropriate topic
> of discussion for this list.  The spewing of murderous hatred
> against harmless people, as motivated by fundamentalist religion,
> is not.
>
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 08:18:00AM -0600, Ctrl wrote:
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> >
> >I can't believe that whining sniveling jizz gobbler (Svend Robinson) has
> >been the incumbent politician for as long as he has.  For as long as I
can
> >remember, he's done nothing but slap decent moral Canadians across the
face
> >time and time again.
> >
> >While I wish the man no ill, I must admit I'd be pleased to learn he's
dying
> >of AIDS.
> >
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> >Subject: [CTRL] {attack} WARNING signs of the times: U.N. Group in
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> >> Subject: {attack} WARNING signs of the times:  U.N. Group in 'showdown'
> >>     with religion
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> >> YOU CAN ALSO READ IT ON THE WEB.
> >>
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> >>  \/   \/   \/   \/   \/   \/   \/   \/
> >>
> >> Subj: U.N. group in 'showdown with religion'
> >> Date: 8/7/03 11:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> >> From:
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> >> Sent from the Internet (Details)
> >>
> >> U.N. group in 'showdown with religion'
> >> Gathered homosexual leaders to sharpen 'rights' strategy worldwide
> >>
> >>
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33984
> >>
> >>    © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
> >>
> >>   Buoyed by growing political acceptance of homosexuals worldwide, a
> >> United Nations group promoting "gay" and lesbian rights met in New York
> >>
> >> to sharpen a multi-pronged strategy that includes a "showdown with
> >> religion."
> >>
> >> The meeting was sponsored by the U.N. Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual
> >> Employees, known as UNGLOBE, a group officially recognized by the
> >> worldwide body in 1996.
> >>
> >> At a forum Monday, attended briefly by U.N. Secretary General Kofi
> >> Annan, panel members singled out Roman Catholics and evangelical
> >> Protestants as opponents, according to the New York-based Catholic
> >> Family and Human Rights Institute.
> >>
> >> Speakers included U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who urged Congress
> >> to withhold support for a free trade agreement with Muslim-majority
> >> Egypt because of its treatment of homosexuals.
> >>
> >> Paula Ettelbrick, executive director of the San Francisco-based
> >> International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, or IGLHRC,
> >> announced a coming "showdown with religion" and vowed Pope John Paul
> >> II's "call to arms" against homosexual marriage would be successfully
> >> combated.
> >>
> >> Another panel member, Princeton University professor Anthony Appiah,
> >> wondered whether or not religion should be limited, as it poses a
> >> "challenge" to the homosexual agenda.
> >>
> >> To thunderous applause, Svend Robinson, a member of the Canadian
> >> parliament, told the Catholic Church to "clean up your own house"
> >> before criticizing the morality of homosexuals.
> >>
> >> Robinson criticized Roman Catholic Bishop Frederick Henry of Calgary,
> >> calling his actions in defense of traditional marriage "unbelievable."
> >>
> >> The deputy mocked "born again" Christians, asking, "Did they have to
> >> come back again as themselves?"
> >>
> >> As WorldNetDaily reported, Robinson is the sponsor of a bill that would
> >>
> >> add sexual orientation as a protected category in Canada's genocide and
> >>
> >> hate crimes legislation. Opponents believe it would criminalize public
> >> _expression_ against homosexual behavior, including making quotations
> >> from the Bible.
> >>
> >> The U.N. group that hosted the event is pressing the United Nations to
> >> recognize same-sex couples and treat their partnerships as equal to
> >> traditional marriages.
> >>
> >> Carol Bellamy, executive director of the U.N. Children's Fund, or
> >> UNICEF, sent a message of support to the conference.
> >>
> >> Annan told panel members the world should become "much more tolerant
> >> and compassionate."
> >>
> >> "I think what is important is that we should stress those positive
> >> aspects in our society, the things that bring us together, and move
> >> away from discrimination and persecution," the secretary general said.
> >>
> >> At a news conference last week, the Atlantic Monthly reported, Annan
> >> was asked to comment on the debate over what constitutes a family.
> >>
> >> "I believe that individuals should be allowed to make their own choices
> >>
> >> and that we should be careful not to draw conclusions or adopt
> >> prejudicial attitudes towards people for their choices and
> >> preferences," he said. "That's not something I think this organization
> >> should get involved in."
> >>
> >> Mark Malloch Brown, administrator of the U.N. Development Program, sent
> >>
> >> a statement to the organizers, stating, "Discrimination based on sexual
> >>
> >> orientation not only violates basic human rights but also hinders
> >> development by immobilizing human capital, stifling _expression_ and
> >> limiting freedom of choice."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   U.N. Human Rights Commission meeting
> >>
> >>
> >> The panel discussed ways to ensure the success of a resolution at
> >> introduced at this year's U.N. Human Rights Commission to expand the
> >> world body's definition of discrimination to include "sexual
> >> orientation."
> >>
> >> Robinson blamed the Vatican for the resolution's failure and promised a
> >>
> >> global lobby effort to ensure victory next year.
> >>
> >> This year's resolution was sponsored by Brazil, but Robinson said a
> >> "different champion" will promote it next time.
> >>
> >> Gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender lawmakers from around the world
> >> will meet in San Diego this fall to coordinate their efforts, he noted.
> >>
> >> IGLHRC, the international group, distributed fliers at the meeting that
> >>
> >> listed laws it wants changed, including "sodomy, age of consent and
> >> other 'sex-act' laws, laws on prostitution, laws penalizing those
> >> wearing clothing of the opposite sex and laws on obscenity and
> >> pornography."
> >>
> >> The group also is lobbying against "denial of marriage to same sex
> >> partners, denial of marriage to transgendered people and laws on
> >> parenting and adoption."
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