In a message dated 12/7/03 12:15:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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The bottom line:
Anyone who disagrees with your thesis that Skull & Bones is the supreme and sole master of the global conspiracy is going to be treated to a tirade of irrational name-calling, verbal abuse and slander.
Bottom line: Here you go again putting words into my mouth and then attacking me and saying I am irrational, etc. I have never said that "S&B is the supreme and sole master of the global conspiracy." Please post where I have. And again you never have faced the very real issue of your participation in two email forgeries. And how can I be calling you a name when McBride isn't your name, McFraud? If you feel slandered, please take me to court. You are a shill and a fraud, no name calling, strictly dictionary definition.
Skull & Bones for you is of the nature of an emotional religious fixation. I've never once seen you try to engage in a calm, rational and fair-minded discussion about the relative power of various factions within the global power elite. For the most part you don't even know who the main players are.
Because, I care not to do your research for you and since you have shown the accuracy of yours. Remember when you informed us all that Sen. Graham from Florida was a member of Skull & Bones? Well, he wasn't then and still isn't. But you still claim to know it all. Why should we believe you? You don't even have the courage of your own convictions. You idea of calm rational is boilerplate chatter circles.
To address just a few of your misstatements:
1. Prove that YOU are not a member of a Cointelpro or ADL operation, along with Phoenix and others. Can you prove that you are not? Many people believe that you are, and with good reason. Making such a charge without a particle of evidence, however, is one of the sleaziest debating tactics in the book.
So what's the misstatement? Proving a negative -gee didya learn that in school? Gee, I do not know why you waste all the time trying to be nice, here's the real deal. People that do not agree with you are agents. I didn't call you out untill I caught you, Eastman and webfairy redhanded using forged emails purporting to be from the late Brian Quig's emails in your blantant attempt to take-over CIA-Drugs and to besmirch my character. Your actions before and after reflect cointelpro activity. I have evidence in the very emails that were used and the cc lists and the testimony of known folk. Again you seem to think you are in some debate. You are an outed cointelpro action persona. Have you told your boss or do you try and BS them also? Who are these many people who believ this. You have already been caught in these type of lies before, where you have claimed to have spoken thoroughly with folks and then when posted the exchanges are not what you say.
2. You have claimed that Bush Senior and his associates, including Brent Scowcroft, have actually supported the Iraq War and the policies being pushed by Ariel Sharon and the neocons. PROVE it. Where is your documentation and proof? For over two years, and after repeated requests and challenges, you've produced absolutely nothing to support your argument -- just emotional verbal abuse. You can't begin to wrestle with the kind of solid research that has been produced by professional journalists like Jim Lobe. No doubt you will now accuse Jim Lobe of also being part of the Skull & Bones conspiracy.
Again, you put words in my mouth, please post where I "have claimed that Bush Senior and his associates, including Brent Scowcroft, have actually supported the Iraq War and the policies being pushed by Ariel Sharon and the neocons." If these guys wish to play games for us hoi polloi in public pronouncements, so be it. It doesn't mean I have to believe it. If I have acted as you say, then why do even care? Why do you wish for me to go around accusing folks. I don't know if you have noticed but I am a rather cautious guy and don't go around willy-nilly accussing folks of this or that and I have been involved with some very interesting folk now and then. You are a fraud and I felt it was good to call that to folks attention once again. If you want to continue with delivering "endearing" articles that is fine, but please do not ever feel that I will forget your actions concerning the late Mr. Quig's emails
3. That Halliburton has profited from the Iraq War doesn't prove that the oil industry as a whole promoted the war. Again, PROVE that leading members of the oil industry promoted the war. It is true that the neocons, most of whom have no business experience at all, have had designs on Mideast oil for several decades (see, especially, Robert Tucker's famous article on the subject in Commentary in 1975). But the neocons are NOT the oil industry. The oil industry as a whole has sought to maintain good relations with Israel's neighbors, not alienate them. You can't pump and profit from oil on territory inhabited by an intensely hostile population. Witness the current mess with the oil pipelines in Iraq.
And your point is what? Where I have I said "that leading members of the oil industry promoted the war." You again put words in my mouth. Again you wish me to choose a side in your false specious agrumentative debate. Iraq sits on oil, oil is inolved, Please "prove" it is not.
4. Is it possible to express disagreements with Michael Ruppert without being accused of "attacking" him? Ruppert started to arouse the curiosity of many people when he put all his eggs in the basket of Delmart Vreeland. He even circulated a message claiming that Vreeland had been poisoned by wine that had been sent him by Alan Greenspan. Apparently Ruppert is some kind of cult god for you -- he certainly isn't for folks who are capable of independent thinking and research, and who are better educated in history and politics than Ruppert. Much of Ruppert's research is valuable, but he makes mistakes occasionally, like the rest of us. I know quite a few researchers who are more knowledgeable about conspiracy politics than Ruppert, and who certainly know much more about oil politics than he does.
And so? You represent the viewpoint of whom? Sean McBride/McFraud, is a persona without the courage of his convictions. Someone who hides in the shadows and disparages legitimate people
5. Far from believing that Israel is behind the majority of conspiratorial activities in the world, I've stated many times that I believe that Israel is largely a victim of the Octopus. The Octopus is a fragile secret alliance of global criminal interests, many of which are neither Jewish nor Israeli. The Octopus, however, relies heavily on the cover of Zionism to pursue its goals. One of the key tactics the Octopus uses to fend off investigation and criticism is to accuse its critics of "anti-Semitism." Nice trick if you can get away with it, and they've been getting away with it for decades now.
Hmm, McFraud, trying to cover your ass - so who of the neocons believes their own lies? You say you believe their public pronouncements, I do not. And here you say it is all a game of hoodwink. Octopus is both fragile and able to keep up the centuries-old cover of anti-semitism in place, ya right. Sounds to me more like the secret societies synarchial, hegelian playlist to me.
Conspiracy politics for you is much more a cult than it is for many Skull & Bones members, I suspect. John Kerry, for instance, is capable of engaging in a reasonable debate, based on a rational analysis of objective facts. He doesn't fly off the handle every time his idee fixe is challenged. He took the trouble to get an education before he became a self-appointed expert on world politics. He's also produced some useful writings on elements of Octopus activities, including the Russian Mafia, money laundering, drug trafficking and the Iraq War.
Boy John Kerry, now there is somebody to trust, writings hunh, hell I have produced writings. Kerry had the subpoena power of a Senate committee -- and the perps walked.
And, no, I am not supporting Kerry for president, nor do I treat him with any reverence. But you might pick up a few pointers on how to improve your style of communication from him. (Step number one: get an education before you start lecturing and hectoring the world.)
Again, you speak disparging about me.
Peace,
Om
Kris Millegan
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