On Mar 28, 2004, at 10:44 AM, Party of Citizens wrote: Unreported persons are not necessarily missing persons They may not wish to be reported for one reason or another. The census people are well aware of this group of people. And I do agree with you that the number will be larger than expected because no one knows how large the group is.
There is one problem with the idea that the governments are doing away with these people as a purposeful policy. And that is what are they doing with the bodies and why hasn't someone gone public with it? This would not stay a state secret for long in todays world.
If the governments made the removal of these people a priority, they would do nothing for them and let them die of exposure or the abuse of drugs/alcohol.
Bill H
That's hundreds of thousands who are UNreported missing persons. How do we know? Because when the Ministry of Human Resources decided to use "radical" methods to remove large numbers of welfare recipients from its rolls, it conducted "Exit Surveys" by its staff of research experts. In the first two Exit Surveys, they were unable to find 2/3, ie >5,000 people. The research experts said, Oh well ... that kind of result is typical for this kind of study and this kind of population. That being so, expect hundreds of thousands; maybe even millions of such unreported missing persons across North America. Somebody else can do the math but it is a big number.
We gloss over statistics too readily. We see stats on missing persons and overlook that they are REPORTED missing persons. UNreported missing persons are those in the Exit Surveys. I have an old friend whom I see no more than once every few years. He has no family ... friends where he finds them from sea to sea; the last of the old fashioned hobos. He goes from welfare office to welfare office across Canada and does odd jobs. Little formal education but a fascinating person because his life style is rare. I'm always glad to see him. Now what if he met with foul play? Who would report him? Nobody. Not the hotel he checks out of because their clientelle are transients. Not his friends because we see him so rarely. People like this can "disappear" and never so much as show up in an obituary column or a police missing person stat.
And why just inthe USA? Doesn't Canada and Europe have a homeless problem?
Yes, it is a problem all over the world. But the focus presently is on missing persons. Vancouver estimates 1,200 homeless. They are not missing because we can find them any day. The thousands in the 2/3 of MHR rolls are missing because society as a whole doesn't know where they are. We can guess and I am working on a form with 8 categories to help our guessing.
Bill H On Mar 27, 2004, at 5:22 PM, Party of Citizens wrote:
All part of ridding the world of "useless eaters". So ask yourself what happens to all those hundreds of thousands of 'transients' and 'indigents' who are UNREPORTED missing persons in U-S-A.
I threw this out to stimulate discussion of the "conspiracy theory" sort. The UN tells us 25,000,000 die every year for want of necessities of life. But how many die because they are made to disappear? We have Dr. Lopez Solla on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and she is helping us to understand this problem better. Her doctoral dissertation was on missing persons and she has coined the apt phrase: "Authors of Disappearance".
So I ask: Given that so many people buy into the theory of surplus population and see others as "useless eaters", could there be systematic campaigns in some jurisdictions of the world to liquidate the useless eaters? Do they have authors of their disappearance? What do you think?
ZG
www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================= = Archives Available at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================= = To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Om
www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Om
