-Caveat Lector- A Boston Globe article of today on EgyptAir 990 story appeared in my local Bakersfield Californian newspaper and I noted from its content below, compared to the below included AP story on "black box" evaluations, that their story contains a key element missing in AP story which needs clarification and perhaps deeper investigation at http://www.enterprisemission.com of numerous articles with both empirical evidence http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair2.htm and informed speculation regarding above suspected potential cause of this airplane crash http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair3.htm http://www.enterprisemission.com/reid.html along with other articles regarding seemingly farfetched symbolism connections to esoteric cosmologies in other articles at that site. The Globe story written by Matthew Brelis says: <<Had there been a major problem with the jet or an explosion, it is likely that a member of the crew would have issued a distress call during the 51 seconds in which the plane dropped from its cruising altitude of 33,000 feet to 16,400 feet. At that point, the plane's two ''black boxes'' - the cockpit recorder and the flight data recorder - stopped working, as did the plane's transponder, which sends identifying information to controllers, indicating a power failure. ''At no time did a member of the flight crew use radio communication to advise air traffic control of either an emergency of a mechanical failure or concern,'' Hall said in a statement.>> What I am wondering is what he meant by "at that point". Does this mean that a power failure occured at the beginning of the 51second descent to 16,400 feet or at the end of that descent? Deeper investigation indicates the possibility that such a catastrophic power failure shutting off the plane's transponders and both "black boxes" might have been due to an advanced electromagnetic weapon whose high powered electromagnetic pulse (EMP) may have caused such catastrophic power failure, that would have also prohibited pilots' mayday calls, and related unexplained anomalous behavior resulting in the crash of this airliner. The reason I ask this is due to the concerns about this kind of advanced e/m weaponry under development secretly not only by the US but by other entities possibly hostile to the United States, concerns voiced to me by, and scientifically discussed by Dr. Fred B. Wood, Sr., early radar pioneer, in his articles at http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/fwood.html . The Globe newspaper research seems to be ahead of AP on at least this one item of potential evidence to support this idea of EgyptAir990 being "shot down" for some reason by an advanced E/M weapon, I thought I would suggest exploration of this idea. Remember that there were about 30 Egyptian military officers on that plane that had just finished some kind of training in the US and be aware that certain rogue Islamic states may be in possession of this kind of technology now in experimental stages due to their hiring of former Soviet scientists who Wood maintains may be even farther ahead than the US in these experiments which are all under wraps due to strict US scientific/military secrecy policies. So many airplanes have been inexplicably "falling out of the sky" over the last few years that this seemingly fanciful thesis warrants deeper investigation and I hope media reporters begin that process in the interests of public safety. David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tehachapi, CA 93561 Global Emergency Alert Response http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000 Global Peace Walk 2000 http://www.globalpeacenow.org http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/gpw.html http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/345/nation/EgyptAir_tape_bears_no_proof_of _mechanical_error+.shtml The Boston Globe Saturday, December 11, 1999 EgyptAir tape bears no proof of mechanical error By Matthew Brelis, Globe Staff, 12/11/99 A detailed analysis of the cockpit voice recorder of EgyptAir Flight 990 has uncovered nothing to indicate that a bomb or any mechanical problem caused the Cairo-bound jet to crash, the nation's top aviation safety official said yesterday. James E. Hall, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said that sophisticated sound analysis of the cockpit recorder is continuing but that ''no sounds have been detected that would be consistent with mechanical failures or an explosion.'' All 217 on board were killed when the Boeing 767 crashed 60 miles south of Nantucket. The 31 1/2-minute tape begins before the aircraft took off from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport on the morning of Oct. 31, Hall noted, and ''routine air traffic control communications are heard throughout the recording.'' Had there been a major problem with the jet or an explosion, it is likely that a member of the crew would have issued a distress call during the 51 seconds in which the plane dropped from its cruising altitude of 33,000 feet to 16,400 feet. At that point, the plane's two ''black boxes'' - the cockpit recorder and the flight data recorder - stopped working, as did the plane's transponder, which sends identifying information to controllers, indicating a power failure. ''At no time did a member of the flight crew use radio communication to advise air traffic control of either an emergency of a mechanical fialure or concern,'' Hall said in a statement. It is unlikely that the safety board will conduct a major, expensive reconstruction of the wreckage, sources said. Hall seemed to indicate as much. ''The ship will conduct its salvage operations for about a week before returning to port. The need for further operations will be evaluated at that time.'' A private salvage vessel will be used to recover human remains and wreckage. It arrived in Rhode Island on Tuesday, but because of bad weather, it is not expected to sail to the crash site until Monday. Sources said investigators will most likely focus on the cockpit and the area below the cockpit floor. Investigators believe it is likely that the plane was brought down deliberately by copilot Gamil El Batouty when he was alone in the cockpit. While Hall would not characterize the transcripts of the voice recording, sources said Captain Ahmed El Habashi is heard returning to the cockpit and saying, ''Pull with me! Help me! Pull with me!'' The flight data recorder indicates that the elevator flaps on the tail were split, with the left one - manipulated by the captain - pointing up in an effort to give the plane lift, while the right elevator was pointed down. Elevators are controlled by pushing or pulling on the column, or yoke, in the cockpit. The Boeing 767 has two columns that work in tandem unless more than 50 pounds of pressure is exerted to shear a pin connecting them. Last month, the safety board was poised to turn the investigation over to the FBI, believing that Batouty might be one of the worst mass murderers in US history. Egyptian officials have disputed the contention. Hall, careful not to create a new controversy, would not elaborate on what the transcript contains, saying ''I do not believe this transcript can be characterized or further described without adding to the speculation or misleading the public about the contents of the recording.'' Hall said that investigators had finished initial simulator work at Boeing using information from the data recorder to re-create the environment of the cockpit during the accident. This story ran on page A03 of the Boston Globe on 12/11/99. � Copyright 1999 Globe Newspaper Company. ----------------------- http://www.boston.com/news/daily/10/ntsb.htm Associated Press Saturday, December 11, 1999 NTSB: EgyptAir tape yields no evidence of mechanical problems By Deb Riechmann, Associated Press, 12/10/99 WASHINGTON -- Extensive review of cockpit conversations on EgyptAir Flight 990 has found no evidence an explosion or mechanical problem caused the plane to crash into the ocean, federal aviation investigators say. "No sounds have been detected that would be consistent" with such an explanation, National Transportation Safety Board Chairman James Hall said Friday. Investigators still are pursuing the cause of the crash, including a theory that for unknown reasons, a relief co-pilot, Gameel El-Batouty, sent the Boeing 767 into the steep dive that carried all 217 aboard to their deaths in the Atlantic Ocean off Massachusetts on Oct. 31. The Egyptian public has reacted angrily to this speculation. Hall said a substantial portion of the work on the 31 1/2-minute recording has been completed and working transcripts have been developed in both Arabic and English. Further refinements are possible. He said the NTSB had no immediate plans to disclose the recorded conversations. "I do not believe this transcript can be characterized or further described without adding to the speculation or misleading the public about the contents of the recording," he said. He said routine air traffic control communications are heard throughout the tape, but that "at no time did a member of the flight crew use radio communications to advise air traffic control of either an emergency or a mechanical failure or concern." Hall and FBI Director Louis Freeh on Monday plan to travel to Quonset Point, R.I., to visit a ship contracted to recover wreckage and human remains from the crash site. The ship was expected to leave Quonset Point this week, but was delayed by bad weather. Last month, it appeared the NTSB was ready to turn the case over to the FBI to handle as a criminal investigation. After the Egyptian government objected, the NTSB continued to lead the probe. Jim Davis, FBI spokesman in Washington, told The Associated Press that, at this point, it does not matter whether the FBI or the NTSB heads the investigation. "We are still getting the job done," Davis said. "There is no rush for us to take over this investigation. We want to be very cautious and deliberate." U.S. officials this week said the cockpit voice tape did not contain the sounds of multiple people in the cockpit as the plane began its fatal plunge into the ocean. One official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there were parts of the tape where it is unclear who is speaking -- an Egyptian translator said he thought the speaker might be a second person in the cockpit, but a U.S. translator disagreed. The official said there is nothing else that would steer American investigators away from their theory that a lone person in the cockpit turned off the autopilot, pointed the plane's nose toward the water and then turned off the engines. A source close to the investigation told the AP that Egyptian officials agree with the Americans about the words on the recording "but not with their meaning" or interpretation. He said the U.S. investigation was in a holding pattern because officials want to see what, if any, clues can be retrieved from wreckage on the ocean floor. Investigators are looking for any evidence of explosives or possible mechanical failure that may not have been obvious from the voice and flight data recorders, he said. The recovery operation is expected to last two to three more weeks, he said. Hall also said investigators, who have synchronized the cockpit voice recorder with data from the flight recorder, completed initial work this week on a flight simulator at the Boeing plant near Seattle. The simulator allowed them to re-enact the flight, although they were not able to experience the acceleration forces against their bodies. Preliminary information from the flight data recorder indicates the plane's autopilot was switched off and the plane was put into a dive so steep and fast that passengers would briefly have felt weightless. 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