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Dare To Call It Conspiracy



There is a conspiracy of the prophets in the midst thereof.....and can
only be compared to 1960 which was beginning of the big conspiracy which
took JFK....and then RFK and then King and then Malcolm X and anyone who
might be a person who would take on New World Order, or this Communist
Time Table, or call it what you will....

I am no expert in religion as all would be aware, but I see what I see
and know that in the prophcies of Daniel like 1960 - here we have the
cycle of murder presidents where in 10 years we will have three
presidents, instead of two meaning according to the astrologers and the
conspirators....the murder and/or death of a President where number 2
man steps in and boy watch out for that third man.....

So Reagan beat the death sentence and Brady hit which was all planned,
for that Brady was Irish and had the wit and pen, of a ready writer.

So now they want to build WALLS iin the Holy Land these Zionists - wall
them all in, make easier targets.....no trench coat mafia here I say,
just real trenches or is it to be a great wall.

This story figures in with the game plan.....the return of the Messiah,
some of whom believed he was born February 5, 1962......of royal
descent, and only guy born tht day that fits is King Hussein, son of
late King married to English Lady who died in heliocopter crash and lo
and behold King Hussein put this man in - his son, rather than the
brother.

And believe me All Kings Are Brothers and be assured are also in the
masonic order like a Benhadad.....The Sons of God and the Sons of the
Prophet - and the Zionists are coming to a showdown which will bring
about the ends of time as outlined in Daniel for here is whre major
murder is planned in advance......then remember Job, for the Sons of Job
are in the skies in a constellation known as Job's Coffin, also
transalated to mean The Sons of Joseph Kennedy, updated.

What did the Klebold kid say......April 19 ws Judgment day.....and Black
Trench Coat Mafia suicided like drugged hyped up Khaki Mafia undr who's
control    Those parens of Klebold and Harris bettr track down the real
culprits for they use kids to get the parens...like Jon
Benet....Slaughter of the Innocents....

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Daniel 9:25 Is it a Trench or Wall?
By Dr. James Price and Guy Cramer
This paper is Part 4 of The Unexpected King (A Precise Mathematical
Prediction)
�It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench�
(New International Version)
....The street shall be built again, and the wall...
(King James Version) & (New King James Version)
Guy Cramer: Why is this an important issue? Christians and Jews
interpret Daniel 9:25-26 as the most important Old Testament prophetic
calculation for the time of the Messiah. Not all Christians are in
agreement on the interpretation of the passages. The biggest
disagreement comes from the choice of four separate decrees within a one
hundred year time span that can be used as the starting point for the
calculations. One of the decrees is the issuing of the Royal letters to
Nehemiah to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem. If Daniel 9:25 is speaking
of a trench and not a wall, then the command to Nehemiah cannot be used
as the starting point. On the other hand, if Daniel is speaking of the
wall then the Nehemiah command would be the logical starting point.
The Hebrew word used in Daniel 9:25 is charuwts (Strong's Concordance
Hebrew word #2742) This word is literally translated as "ditch" but in
the side text the author has tried to make a direct translation for our
English and he translates this same word as wall. The New International
Version (NIV Bible) translates the word as trench while both the KJV and
the NKJV translate the word as wall. I know the word could mean wall but
why have the King James authors chosen wall over ditch when other words
may be more appropriate to say wall?
Dr. James Price, Prof. of Hebrew, sent me the following reply;
Brown-Driver-Briggs page 358, meaning III lists "trench, moat" having
its derivation from a root verb that means "to cut, sharpen, decide."
However, while one "builds" a street or a plaza, not so for a ditch,
trench, or moat. They are dug or cut, as the very root of the word
indicates. So the idea of trench or moat is not in semantic harmony with
the verb "build." The ancient Jews who translated this into Greek
rendered the word as "wall." That is likely where the KJV translators
got the meaning of the word, and the NKJV editors thought that was
justified.
Sincerely,
James D. Price
UPDATE: JUNE 21,1998

Jerry Brown emailed the following question:
You wrote, "I know the word could mean wall." My question is, if the
word means 'trench,' then how do you know it could mean 'wall'? Y109
seems to say it is translated 'wall' because it has the verb 'build.' If
that's what it takes to change a noun name, why couldn't a translator
choose any word at all, like 'temple'?
Guy Cramer: Wall and trench in our language mean two different things,
but in Biblical times these were the two elements you put around your
city to protect it. A wall, a trench or both. They are defensive
measures. So you can see why one word in Hebrew can represent both.
In this case Dr. Price points out that Wall should be the correct choice
for a proper translation. The Jews also translated the word in Daniel
9:25 to 'Wall' instead of 'Trench' in the original Greek manuscripts.
The problem with modern interpretations seems to be with which English
version of the Bible you read. Most people I know use the New
International Version (NIV) because the King James Version (KJV) seems
very difficult to understand with English that was used prior to the
year 1762. However, in recent time (1979) the New King James Version
(NKJV) has come out and is made for the modern use of English. I
personally tend to find the New King James Version closer to the
original meaning of the original language (Old Testament Hebrew and New
Testament Greek) when compared to the same passages in the New
International Version. As we can see from above one word can make a big
difference on the meaning. The literal interpretation of a word can be
misleading unless we understand the rules of the original language as
Dr. Price does.
Let us hope that the Hebrew and Greek translators of your Bible version
understood such rules.

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