In a message dated 6/25/00 9:13:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
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> But no one's yet answered my question:  what does it matter WHO is
>  responsible?  The whole reason for Jesus' existence was to be betrayed
>  and to die a horrible death as a sacrifice to atone for our collective
>  sins; in other words, He wasn't destined to live to a ripe old age and
>  die of natural causes, because such a life and death would have
>  rendered His existence meaningless.
>
>  Whomever is to be 'blamed' for condemning Jesus, they were just
>  enacting the plan already laid out by God.
>
>  So Judas, the Pharisees, and Rome itself were all integral actors in
>  God's grand theatrical event.
>
>  If you seek to assign 'blame' for Jesus' death, look to God Himself,
>  since it was His plan to begin with.

  Why must you interpret it that way?  Is that the way you interpret the JFK
assassination?  That he had to die so our destiny, mucky and garbled as it
is, could be attained?  If Jesus was a true figure in history and if he did
indeed die on a cross, why take the current organized religion's view of it
when you don't give much weight to the Bible and you probably don't have any
respect for organized religion?

  I'm not even sure Jesus lived the way explained, let alone died the way
explained.  The virgin birth, the manger, the crucifxion, the betrayal - are
all echoes from the tales of other legendary figures.  But if he did live and
die that way, it sounds more like a political assassination than some weird
hocus pocus to take on the sins of other individuals.  How does one take on
the wrongs of another?  Individuals have their own acountability.  This
"sacrifice for our sins" thinking is bizarre and unnatural, IMO.

Samantha

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