-Caveat Lector-
This is errant nonsense and statist sophistry.
Nessie
Who said anything about statism? I don't think the
government should run the schools, either. I just don't
want to to see them fall into the hands of the corporations.
That would be much, much worse.
MJ
You do comprehend Statism?
Not that you provide support for *any* of your drivel (as I remain
on vigil for your pre-socialist schools literacy details) ...
How will an education through 'cooperation' be WORSE than an
education by force?
Nessie
Personally, I'd prefer to see schools managed by parent-teacher
cooperatives.
MJ
Remove Government from the equation ... and this could certainly
be one option. Will your cooperatives require other people's money
which is to be provided without their consent?
It is the height of arrogance for you to lecture others as to their
"moral duty".
Nessie
It's my moral duty to attempt to enlighten you, because you are a
fellow human being and you are morally remiss. It is also pragmatic
to attempt to help you to mend yourself of your error because your
error threatens the future of all of us.
MJ
How is a philosophy with roots in rape, theft and enslavement ... moral?
WHO says it is YOUR 'duty' as you describe it? By what definition? Edict?
Nessie
If public education falls into corporate hands, this will be a much worse
place to live, worse even than it is today.
MJ
Yes, you made this claim above ... How will an education through
'cooperation' be WORSE than an education by force?
It is Fascistic to attempt to impose your concept of "moral duty"
on others by threat of force through government intimidation.
Nessie
That depends on the circumstance. In this particular instance
I'm not using force. I'm using logic, reason and morality. If I was
using force, you'd know it.
MJ
What logic?
Other then not harm my innocent fellow citizens, or steal their
property, my moral duty is not to impose my personal beliefs
on others.
Nessie
That's a selfish, self centered and short sighted philosophy.
MJ
What do you imagine the 'philosophy' you are shoveling is?
Nessie
If everyone felt like you, we'd be in a sorry state indeed.
MJ
How?
If everyone took care of THEMSELVES ... stole from no one
else ... cooperated ... how could this be possible?
Nessie
If you ever find yourself bleeding to death in a ditch, as I once did ,
that you remember as the cars stream past, that by your way of
thinking, they have no moral duty to stop and help you.
MJ
Right.
What makes YOU more important than others?
Regard$,
--MJ
The classic redistribution-of-wealth mentality works
this way: A and B get together to impose a tax on C
so they can give his money to D, who out of a mix of
envy of C, gratitude to A and B, and selfishness, then
votes for A and B again so they can repeat the process
next year. A and B justify playing Robin Hood by
claiming that C has plenty of money and, in any event,
has a social responsibility to help 'the needy'. Of
course, D is 'needy'. -- William Stanmeyer
Karl Marx tried to devise an economic system that got
rid of selfishness. The results are well-known. The
Soviet block lagged well behind the West in economic
growth. The people there lived in a police state.
But selfishness, of a type, continued to thrive there.
A Soviet citizen did not get ahead by trading with
others. He prospered by climbing the political ladder
through corruption. -- Charles Oliver
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