-Caveat Lector-
Well, June, I was asking Nate for I do not discuss anything
with you if I can help it but since you have butted in, that
just is not nearly good enough. The idea of including
straight kids in an organization knowing full well that they
are not likely to participate is a ratther safe and smug way
of discriminating without appearing to do so. Sure, some
might attend who have gay friends, etc. but I dare say they,
the straight kids, would NOT be placed IN CHARGE of the
organization the way a Boy Scout Scoutmaster would be. This
is a totally invalid argument and comparing merely attending
to an adult being responsible and having authority over
Scouts. Big, Big difference. For one glaringly obvious
thing, they would all be the same age if straight kids
attended but it is an ADULT gay who is demanding to be placed
in charge of CHILDREN Scouts.
Note, too, that heterosexual males are NEVER placed in charge
of GIRL Scouts nor have they demanded to be so. That would be
totally inappropriate and unacceptable, too. Makes me wonder
just why the desperation for gays to be placed in charge of
the little boys.
Now you are evermore ridiculing the spelling of others so I
must also take note of your changing my wording of 'coarse' as
in lacking refinement to your 'course' as in GIVING
INSTRUCTION? Little Freudian slip there? LOL!! And you
wonder why parents are concerned!!
But this discourse with you and Nate has inspired me and I
have contacted my State reps voicing my opinion and will do so
to national ones expressing my outrage that tax money is being
used to discriminate and disallow the Boy Scouts on the most
unfair basis as you have described for it is NOT the same at
all. Your idea that 'inclusion' by other students and placing
an ADULT in CHARGE are the same it totally bogus and invalid
and does not hold water. I also doubt that the gay groups go
alone into unsupervised camping areas under the tutelage of
adult heterosexual for days at a time. Apples and oranges but
I will protest MY tax money supporting this discriminatory
action. At the least, I can refuse to locally buy all the
little goodies and make all the donations I am constantly
asked for on this basis.
Parents and parents ONLY have the right to control what their
children are taught in matters concerning morals, values,
religion and sexual behavior for they are the ones ultimately
responsible for their children. You are only entitled to live
your OWN live and chose your own lifestyle. You are NOT
entitled to have access to the children of others nor the Boy
Scouts.
So it is just as I thought~~the tyranny of the vocal minority
wanting to spoil things for everybody else. Hope you know
Scout enrollment has skyrocketed since this issue came up for
people are showing their support for them in records numbers.
Any money I would have spent on the local schools will go
directly to the Scouts to replace that to which they were
entitled that has been robbed from them by those seeking to
promote an agenda unacceptable to the BSA.
~Amelia~
----- Original Message -----
From: "YnrChyldzWyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Reply to an Amelia Basher
-Caveat Lector-
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Amelia wrote:
>But I DO
>have a question for you since you are a most tolerant fellow
>by your own claims. Why are there over 800 schools in this
>country that provide facilities for the gay student clubs
(Gay
>Pride or whatever each is called) based on their homosexual
>orientation yet deny the Boy Scouts the use of those same
>facilities based on their heterosexual orientation?
Because the gay and lesbian student clubs do not discriminate
against
heterosexuals...in fact they encourage straights to also join
their
clubs to facilitate dialogue between the 2 groups...
The BSA discriminates, plain and simple; THAT is why they are
being
banned from using taxpayer-funded facilities...
>Now Nessie claims the teaching of human sexuality is biology
>but it has far more ramifications that that, at least for
most
>humans. It has psychological effects and some of this
coarse,
>crude stuff
'Course' and 'crude' are purely subjective terms; what you
deem 'course'
and 'crude' others may deem enjoyable and fun...
>And I think that those who oppose a gay lifestyle on the
basis
>of their religion or whatever as just as entitled to their
>beliefs as you are to yours.
Of course they are; what they are NOT entitled to is to impose
their
superstitions onto the rest of society. As was mentioned in
another
post, if you think homosexuality is a sin, don't do it; but
don't think
that you have the right to make your superstition into law
effecting the
rights of all homosexuals.
June
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