-Caveat Lector-
why do you always carry on a thread but change the title and stuff?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Hennessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] new gay police unit prosecutes 'homophobes'
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> it was also reported and discussed on local radio
> Radio Forth -
it was discussed all over the place- but the content of the discussion was
not anything like you suggested in your mail- it was discussion derived from
the news item i subsequently posted because some other list member thought
you were telling the truth.
> You are totally wrong to suggest I derive my source from that story
not from that exact bbc published story, silly billy, but the news item it
was about.
- you
> are misrepresenting me for YOUR own ends
my end is to correct your homophobia driven lies.
>
> methinks thou dost protest too loudly
protest about what?
you surely cannot be using the "you are gay because you are not a
homophobe" argument are ya? tell me you're not. ;)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] new gay police unit prosecutes 'homophobes'
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Don Daniels
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 9:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CTRL] new gay police unit prosecutes 'homophobes'
> >
> >
> > This is totally crazy.
> > >>>>>>yes, it is... unbelievably so!
> >
> > It looks like the British Isles have gone politically-correct bonkers.
> > >>>>>> if andrew is to be believed, that is.
> >
> >
> > well.... actually the post was, as all andrew's postings, a tissue of
> lies.
> > homophobic shite.
> > below is the news story he was misrepresenting for his own political
ends.
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/scotland/newsid_694000/694638.stm
> >
> > Wednesday, 29 March, 2000, 11:27 GMT 12:27 UK
> >
> > New blue hue to 'pink triangle'
> >
> >
> >
> > The gay community tends to be wary of reporting attacks
> >
> > A Scottish police force has launched a campaign to strengthen links with
> the
> > local gay community.
> > The initiative by Lothian and Borders Police aims to persuade gay and
> > lesbian members of the community that they will be treated equally by
the
> > force.
> > At the same time, police say they will recognise the gay community has
> > special concerns and different needs.
> > Among the measures being introduced are specially-trained officers to
work
> > with gay people and a higher police profile in areas of the city where
> there
> > is a greater proportion of gay residents.
> > Efforts to promote a better mutual understanding and increased
confidence
> > will focus on the area around the city's Broughton Street, known as
> > Edinburgh's "pink triangle".
> > Other measures include:
> > A dedicated police surgery based in Broughton Street which will run for
a
> > one-year trial period
> > Contact telephone numbers for community officers to be handed out to all
> gay
> > venues in poster format and on flyers
> > Letters to all licencees in the Greenside/Broughton Street areas
> > highlighting increased police attention aimed at building community
> > relations
> > Crime prevention visits to pubs, clubs and restaurants in the area
> > Literature on crime reporting, domestic violence and police services for
> > local businesses
> > Advertising of police services through the gay press
> > External training inputs for police officers
> > Consideration to be given to anonymous "remote" reporting.
> > Police in Edinburgh acknowledge that the gay community in the city has
> less
> > confidence in the force than others in the capital.
> > They may be targetted by criminals because of their sexuality, and they
> are
> > less likely to report attacks against them.
> > As a result, police are not given a full picture of the extent of
> homophobic
> > incidents, while those responsible for such attacks are not caught.
> >
> >
> >
> > The move is a drive towards greater trust
> >
> > Consideration is now being given to enabling victims to report incidents
> > anonymously.
> > Chief Superintendent Malcolm Dickson, who will oversee the operation,
> said:
> > "At present we know there is a problem with under-reporting of crimes
for
> a
> > number of different reasons.
> > "Some victims are not in a position to say openly that they are gay and
> > therefore that the crime may have been motivated for that reason.
> > "Others may be reluctant to be tagged as a victim of homophobic crime."
> > 'It's a long road'
> > He added that, ideally, the force wanted all crime victims to come
forward
> > but he acknowledged that not everyone felt that they could.
> > "It's a long road. In many respects we are lucky, we have a focussed,
> > well-established community and we are used to their presence and the
> > policing issues that are thrown up.
> > "In that respect we may be ahead of other police forces but there is
still
> a
> > long way to go and we are constantly refining our approach and, I'd like
> to
> > think, improving our skills in relating to the gay community."
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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