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Edward Britton wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> J2:
>
> > > What makes Israel any more of a victim in this insanity than the Muslims?
> >
> >It's not. But yours is a good question. The Palestinians,( who are not a
> >specific ethnic group, but Arabs from a geographical area which no longer
> >exists,)have learned modern PR.
>
> ROFL! Haven't we all to one degree or another?
But this is new for the Palestinians. Before the first Intifada they were
only known as terrorists. Today, they are still terrorists but it's ok for
them to be terrorists because they are primarily perceived as victims.
>
> >They know that they can't beat the Israelis
> >militarily and that they are in a position to exploit sympathy from what has
> >become a Liberal zeitgeist. They saw how NATO's PR hacks made the Albanian
> >aggressors into victims and beat a much stronger enemy.
>
> Albanian aggressors? Please, by all means, elaborate!
You should know this. See bottom.
>
> >This article is a PERFECT example of that game. This scumbag. The Grand Mufti
> >who is crying about Israel's insensitivity to the Palestinians religious
> >feelings has been secretly destroying the Jewish artifacts from the Biblical
> >Temple for religious and political reasons.
>
> Now, now, let's don't confuse the issue with details or facts :-)
>
> > > Yep, I'd have to agree. Let's just hope Israel is willing to pay the price
> > > for future annexations. The Iraqis are already in transit to the region
> > > through Jordan.
> >
> >They probably are. Iraq is no problem whatsoever.
>
> They were to the Jordanians who tried to stop them, but then they might not
> have been all that well motivated. :-) I'm not as worried about the Iraqis
> per se as much as I am the regional sentiment the Iraqis represent. Could
> Israelis handle just the Iraqis, perhaps, but how about the rest of the
> Arab world?
I just saw a report which says they can't. This means that they must go to war
before their enemies get stronger. I believe this will happen.
If Israel finds itself losing a war, they will no doubt employ their 400
nuclear warheads. THEN, Yardbird, and Saba, and Shannon, can gloat as their
children's ( and Mine ) eyeballs melt.
No matter how much one might hate Jews and/or Israel, one would have to be
suicidal to want Israel to lose a war.
> > > >You people are such suckers for the Palestinian line of bullshit.
> > >
> > > Not this person. Personally, I think the rest of the world should rope the
> > > whole area off and let both sides go on killing each other to their heart's
> > > content! Whoever's left gets the spoils.
> >
> >That would have been the sensible thing to do. But the USA would not allow
> >the Israelis to do that.
>
> Neither would the rest of the Arab world.
They don't have the guts to go against the IDF at this point in time.
> What good is a fight if you
> can't get in there yourself?
>
> >The US plays both sides to it's oil companies' advantage.
>
> Of course.
>
> >NOW Israel has broken from the NWO plan for the Middle East.
>
> Which is/was?
Oslo
> >The Oslo crap failed miserably and left BOTH Israel AND the Palestinians
> >in much more
> >dangerous positions than they were in before.
>
> Again of course. That's always what happens when arrogant pricks stick
> their noses in somebody else's business. Unfortunately, the parties in
> question were not in a position to object even if either side had wished to
> do so.
>
> >The only solutions left are violent ones.
>
> There are ALWAYS other solutions. I can think of several off the top of my
> head:
>
> 1. Arab nations hold a summit whereby they agree to cede X percentage of
> their own land to the Palestinians.
Yeah right! What's kept them from doing just that for the last 53 years?
>
> 2. The Israelis agree to respect the sanctity of Islamic holy sites within
> their region and the "Palestinians" agree to do the same.
The Israelis have done exactly that. No Mosque or Church has been harmed
under the Jews.
You can't say that about the Palestinians.
>
> 3. Once, or if, "Palestinians" are granted land of their own, they agree to
> move their holy sites to their new land as a part of the deal.
They already have a land of their own. It's called Jordan. The Arab half of
partitioned Palestine.
That's beside the point though. They want Israel moved into the Mediterranean.
Unfortunately, they just can't seem to manage to do it.
> 4. The "Palestinians" take out a huge loan with the world bank and buy
> themselves a homeland. :-)
They have a homeland. Jordan.
> > > >Here's what's been REALLY going on at the site where our friends have been
> > > >in charge.
> > >
> > > I'm at a loss to explain why I should accept this propaganda over anybody
> > > else's. Hint: the JERUSALEM Post? :-)
> >
> >Remember. The best propaganda is truth.
>
> I'm not sure that truth exists in the human context.
>
> >The Post story is not singular.
>
> Ahh, the discernment of truth via the accumulation or preponderance of
> circumstantial evidence! Why didn't I think of that? :-)
You should think of that. Since you were not actually there at the time,
you only have circumstantial evidence and hard judgment.
> (I still have to
> decide who's circumstantial evidence is "best" or most agreeable with my
> beliefs/perceptions.)
Wrong! Very wrong. You need to find the evidence that shows what actually
happened, NOT what agrees with your beliefs and perceptions.
> >The Mufti has been doing this for years. It's been driving the Jewish
> >religious
> >fanatics nuts.
>
> And what have the Jewish religious fanatics been doing all this time? :-)
Going ape shit because the secular government won't let them tear down the
mosques and churches which are an affront to the Jewish religion.
> > Same goes for the Archaeologists interested in Jerusalem.
>
> At least they can hide behind the cold indifference of science (ROFL!).
>
> > > I don't care either way. As far as I'm concerned, all those who resolve
> > > disputes by violence are, and should be treated as, barbarians.
> >
> >You mean like the failure of the Palestinians to accept the best peace
> >offer they were ever going to get?
>
> Yes. Just like the Jews who consider annexations in violation of their own
> previous agreements.
All agreements are off. Thanks to Arafat and his stupid, stupid followers.
> >They did a very stupid thing and now they will pay for it decisively.
>
> Mark my words; "Palestinians" will not be the only ones who "pay." Of that
> you can be guaranteed.
I'm sure you're right.
J2
>
> Edward ><+>
>
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The CIA's private army run amok!
The KLA with their well developed connections with both the Mafia and
Drug-related crime were
recognized by the US State department as an International terrorist organization
in February 1998
when the Yugoslav Police first began their clampdown on their activities. This,
of course meant that it
would be unlawful for any US resident to raise funds, supply weapons or provide
support for this
murderous criminal movement.
The KLA went on to create an alliance with US public enemy no-1, Osama Bin
Laden, and to
receive the support of the Islamic extremist government of Iran. Considerable
numbers of armed
Mujahideen groups from Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and
Tunisia operated out of
northern Albania, while even hardened fighters from the Chechen war against
Russia were to be
found fighting alongside the Albanian separatists in Kosovo.
The Albanian-Kosovan Mafia are quite clearly, along with the Chechens the most
successful threat to
law and order throughout Europe, their commitment to violence, drug smuggling
and support for
spreading Muslim insurgency, particularly in the Balkans, is legendary.
The CIA, far from supporting the law enforcement agencies already struggling
with this upsurge of
crime, instead helped to create a far worse problem. The CIA, long interested
in the idea of running
an Albanian 'private' army dating back to the beginnings of the cold war and a
certain Kim Philby,
seized upon the chance of finally achieving their aim and encouraged the Kosovan
Muslims to launch a
major insurgency.
Turning not only a blind eye to Bin Laden and the Iranians involvement, they
poured in millions of
dollars worth of clandestine aid and weapons to the KLA, set up supply and
training camps in Albania
and supported the large scale rebellion against the sovereign power in Kosovo,
Serbia.
However, the CIA now finds that it has created a well armed and determined
military force that no
longer can be effectively controlled by its US paymasters, for it is these same
'freedom fighters' who
have launched new rebellions in support of a Greater Albania in both southern
Serbia and Macedonia,
a staunch ally of NATO throughout the campaign against Serbia.
A recent report in the London 'Observer' newspaper was headed 'CIA's bastard
army ran riot in the
Balkans.....backed extremists'. However, experienced Balkan watchers would
express little surprise at
the CIA's support of the KLA forces, renamed the UCPMB in Southern Serbia and
the 'National
Liberation Army' in Macedonia. There was a considerable level of co-operation
between the CIA and
the KLA in return initially, for not carrying out terrorist attacks within
Serbia or on Serb civilians within
Kosovo. This, however, has certainly gone by the board with the appalling
Albanian terrorist outrage
committed against a bus in February this year when some 50 Kosovan Serb
civilians were killed or
injured.
The US Intelligence community have acquired a considerable presence inside
Albania in recent years,
with joint National Security Agency(NSA)-CIA bases at Shkoder between the Drin
River and Lake
Shkoder, near the capital Tirana and on the coast at the naval base of Durres.
These bases combine
the Signal Intelligence capability of the NSA and the clandestine operations of
the CIA in support of
the destabilisation of a once popular and reasonably prosperous Yugoslavia.
The CIA and the Albanian National Intelligence Service(ShiK) under its Director
Fatos Klosi have
been actively co-operating since 1997 on monitoring threats to the USA and in
support of the war in
Kosovo. However, less certain is the role played in attempts to retrieve the
vast amounts of weapons
that went missing following the occupation of many military bases and the
disintegration of the
Albanian Army in March 1997.
Some 226,000 AK rifles, 351,000 M44/SKS rifles and PMD40/PPSh41 SMG's, 25,000
RP46/RPD/RPK machine-guns, 38,000 automatic pistols, 2,450 grenade launchers
and 770 mortars
were stolen, along with 1.5 million rounds of 7.62mm ammunition, tens of
thousands of grenades, 1
million anti-tank mines, 215,000 anti-personnel mines and 20,000 tons of
explosives. Less than 25% of
the weapons and 10% of the ammunition, mines and explosives have been recovered,
much of the rest
was passed to the KLA or purchased by Intelligence services on the 'black
market' to further their
own projects.
The US, UK and German Intelligence services have played 'God' in the Balkans for
many years, but
their recent uncontrolled activities can only be condemned as an outrageous
interference in the affairs
of another country. The Balkans have now been reduced to a shambles, no more
than a group of
petty, bickering, warlike mini-States which benefits no one, not the Balkans as
a whole, nor NATO.
The only beneficiaries of the CIA's meddling will be the Albanian terrorist and
their criminal
bloodbrothers the Mafia, Osama Bin Laden and the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Western Governments should now be asking whether this is indeed, a good return
for the thousands of
millions of dollars spent funding powerful, but largely unaccountable
Intelligence services such as the
CIA, NSA, MI6, GCHQ or BND!
Alan Marshall(AFI Canada)
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