-Caveat Lector-

        The major proponent of the Racist Christian Identity

        Movement in the United States today has to be Pastor

        Peter J. Peters of Denver Colorado.

        This DOGMA promoted by the BRITISH EMPIRE first came

        into being in 1571 during the Reign of Elizabeth the

        First.  ( A Tudor Queen ).

        The Royal Black Magician who conjured up this notion

        was none other than the VERY FIRST 007 of MI-6.  The

        mysterious Dr.John Dee.   Dr. Dee spent his whole life

        figuring how to establish a BRITISH MARITIME EMPIRE and

        then SUBJUGATE the people of the various colonies.  The

        idea of the TEN LOST TRIBES of ISRAEL seemed the perfect

        mode to keep the peoples of the colonies loyal to the

        CROWN. ( Especially if they thought they were the

        COVENANT PEOPLES ).

        Pastor Peters even goes so far as to say that the very word

        BRITISH in HEBREW means COVENANT-MAN.

        Dr.JOHN DEE's original hypothesis ( which seems to have

        worked ) is spelled out meticulously in FRANCIS A. YATES'S

        "  THE OCCULT PHILOSOPHY IN THE ELIZABETHAN AGE " copyright

        1978 and published by ROUTLEDGE & KEGAN PAUL of LONDON and

        BOSTON.

        It was also the very educated Dr.JOHN DEE and SIR FRANCIS

        WALSHINGHAM who first conjured up the image of the BRITISH

        SECRET INTELLIGENCE SERVICE in 1575.  Which they played

        to the fullest extent before the landmark Naval Battle

        of the Spanish Armada in 1588. ( Thus establishing Englands

        Rule of the Seas which lasted up until 1945 ).


        It was also on the Eve of the Battle of the Spanish Armada

        that the REAL HEIR to the BRITISH THRONE was murdered in

        the TOWER of LONDON.  ( MARY STUART )


        MARY'S GREAT.G.G.G.G.G.GRANDSON  MICHAEL ALEXANDER STUART

        is living in Scotland today.  PRINCE MICHAEL is PRESIDENT

        of the EUROPEAN COUNCIL of PRINCES.  ( a 33 MEMBER ADVISORY

        BOARD ) to the European Union.


        PRINCE MICHAEL'S Close personal friend is SIR LAURENCE

        GARDNER author of " GENESIS of the GRAIL KINGS " and

        " REALM of the RING LORDS ".   Two very insightful

        books.














-----Original Message-----
From: Party of Citizens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] CI (Christian Identity) vs. JI (Jewish Identity)


-Caveat Lector-

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, eric stewart wrote:

> --- Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Here is the full title of Edward Hine's best seller from the late
> > 1800's:
> > "Forty-Seven Identifications of the British Nation with the Ten
> > Lost
> > Tribes of Israel founded upon Five Hundred Scripture
> > Proofs".
>
> i am disgusted already...scriptural proofs?

Religious dogmas do cloud the issues in the JI vs. CI debate which has
been going on for centuries. But for those who wish to take an impartial
and scholarly look at the "right of return" which is said to ensue from
IDENTITY (with the original Israelites) I go back to three categories of
argument. First there is biological-genetic-familial so let's just call
this (1) Biological. Then there are cultural-social-religious arguments so
let's call this (2) Cultural and finally, perhaps the most difficult of
all to turn into reasoned argument, there are arguments about
(3) Spirituality, eg "God or G-d gave us this land".

I find merits and flaws in both JI and CI positions overall. I don't think
any amount of fact or truth or reason is going to convince the dogmatists
and there are many on both sides. I am sure that no amount of reasoned
debate is going to stop the dreadful blood feud in the Middle East. But
while we are waiting for the Apocalypse which some say will be the final
solution to the matter, those of us who value scholarly and reasoned
investigation can have a look at the overall model for debate based on the
three categories above.

POC

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