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on 7/10/02 12:57 AM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-
>
> At 11:50 PM 7/9/02 , you wrote:
>> -Caveat Lector-
>> Yes. Them too. Any sort of fundamentalist. Good science is not a
>> fundamentalist movement. It s a methodology.
>
> Good science is not fundamental?
> A physicist, mathematician, biologist, that doesn't know the fundamentals of
> their discipline and of the scientific method would be useless.
> Physical Scientists are rigid fundamentalists.
> Would you want a mechanic working on your car that wasn't well versed in the
> fundamentals of his trade?
> Any one who is not a fundamentalist in their science, religion, trade, or
> whatever is wasting their time.
> Non-fundamentalism equates to half-assed.
> Fundamentalism is a good thing.

Being well versed in the fundamentals is NOT the same as hold a rigid belief
system where all the answers are already known and there is nothing new to
learn, and seek out something new is considered heresy.


Furthermore - a mechanic is not the same job as a scientist, and thus have a
very criteria and standards of action.
Mechanics operate on things scientists have already created / proven.
A scientists job is to seek deeper understands and new ways to view things.
Not the same job. Not the same criteria for success.

Scientists are not technicians.

Its that same confusion between knowledge and belief again. There is no
fundamentalism when it comes to knowledge. Facts are. No need to be
fundamental or progressive or liberal with knowledge.

You can only be a fundamentalist in the realm of belief.

>
>> That said - I would hazard a guess the these A.D.S.Fs are responsible for a
>> lot less bloodshed, repression, and general world malaise, than a few of the
>> theist ones I could name.
>
> Yeah, like those great theists Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Mugabe, Mandela, and
> Hitler.

Hitler had a belief in a deity. Mandela has a belief in a deity ( there are
many quotes from him on the importance of religion , personally and in a
culture) . I'm pretty sure Mugabe too, but I have to check to make sure. (I
know he was a radical Marxist for a while, but I seem to recall something
about him calling himself a committed Christian later on, but again - I have
to look into it)



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