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>how do you deal with households that are not exactly
> civilian in this situation? A hypothetical extremist who plants a car
bomb,
> or has a bomb factory to send kids out to blow up civilians - who is not
in
> any "officially recognized" army, and lives with his family in the same
> building he makes his bombs, or whatever? He is a civilian - officially.

That is the age old problem of colonialists and occupiers. Seems like
I heard similiar questions when I was in Viet Nam. That is why the South
African Apartheid government locked up Nelson Mandella for 20 years.

> This is a common misconception. One I have talked about here before. The
> word "Jewish" has 2 meanings - the 1st designates a religion the way
"Hindu"
> or "catholic" does. The second in a tribal / ethnic label, like "Italian"
> "French" and "Mexican."

What is the point? That American Jews, Italian Jews need 2 countries?
I thought the 'homeland' for American Jews is America?

> The '67 war was not started by the  Israelis. One should never gamble
more
> than they can stand to lose. The regional Arab states bet they could
destroy
> Israel. They lost.

Who started the war is questionable. Pre emptive strikes by Israel
seems to indicate they started the war. I believe the first strike was
against the Syrian and Egyptian Air Force by Israel.

> The stupid Israelis, instead of kicking the Muslims out of the
territories
> they captured, in the manner Jews were kicked out of so many Islamic
> countries, they said stay, lets try to build a state together. The same
> Muslims who didn't allow Jews to enter the old city of Jerusalem, were
told
> they could share in Jerusalem. Those same Muslims are now blowing up
school
> buses.

Ah yes, good old fashioned 'ethnic cleansing' - too bad the 'stupid
Israelis'
did not 'cleanse' the area of a few million Palestinians. Of course the
reality is that many in Israel (including Sharon) certainly wanted to do
this
but the Cold War was in full bloom and the US (and the Soviet Union)
forbade it.

> Do you think if the Israeli's had lost that war, there would have been a
Jew
> left alive there? Do you think they would have been invited to stay?

The hatred egendered by the establishment of an essentially European
colony in the heart of the Middle East and the resultant forcible removable
of huge numbers of natives certainly did not engender good will among
the Arabs. Regardless, what is done is done. Unfortunately the Israeli
right wing lunatics are in now charge of the Aslym. The bottom line is
that the Lukidniks and fanatical 'greater Israel' Zionists are in charge
and will never give up their ultimate goal of a greater ( i.e. 'Arab free')
Israel. Sharon does not want peace. The tragedy is that the US is a willing
partner in this ongoing genocide.
flw

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