On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 08:11:32AM -0500, Michael George wrote:
> Hello everyone.
>
> I've been using CTWM since the 1990s, so about from the beginning. At
> work I run CTWM on Fedora, but I read that Fedora 40 is going to be all
> Wayland.
I'm in the same boat as you. I've been using ctwm since the mid-'90s
and Fedora has been my preferred desktop OS for the past several
years.
> I searched the mailing list archives and I didn't find many posts
> referencing Wayland. Given that ctwm is a rather niche application, I
> fear that it will not work in the Wayland world.
>
> Is it as simple as installing Xwayland and then continuing on as in the
> good ol' days of X11R5?
I'm concerned that Xwayland won't be a well-supported solution,
especially for X11 programs that use window manager features of X11.
Even if stability isn't an issue, I'm concerned about performance
of all the additional layers. And if I'm proved wrong on either or
both counts, I'll be delighted!
Aside from stability and performance concerns, I'm wondering what
kind of limitations will be imposed on Xwayland programs that
wouldn't be present under X11. The limitations I've seen so far
using Wayland programs annoy me. I'm not sure if those are default
limitations of Wayland and can be lifted if I just knew the right
configuration changes to make, or if that's just the way things will
be from now on.
I'm hopeful that RPM Fusion or other third party repositories for
Fedora will pick up Xorg server and utilities. However, that would
be a lot of work since all X11 programs would need to be picked up
and maintained as well the X11 server, so I consider such a path,
even if someone's willing to do it, just a stop-gap.
I'm also curious what would happen running FlatPaks with
Wayland-only builds of programs running on top of an X11 server.
Does anyone know off-hand?
As possible medium- and long-term paths, I see for myself:
- Switch to a distro that'll support X11 for a longer term.
Right now I'm thinking RHEL or Debian.
- Do what I can to encourage the community to port ctwm to Wayland.
- Find a Wayland WM with all the features of ctwm that I like. (Ha!)
> Thank you.
