"For now, I'm blissfully running Xorg as if it'll be with us for another 30 years, keeping my head firmly in the sand,"
I am right next to you, head buried just as firmly! When Fedora 40 is out and supposedly doesn't offer Xorg X11 servers, I plan to do a test to see what packages are installed when I install ctwm from RPM Sphere and whether it will work. On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 7:00 PM Stefan Monnier <monn...@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote: > > apps on your Wayland desktop. So even if everything works right, ctwm > > there could only ever manage those X windows, not the native Wayland > > ones. And if all the other clients you're running are X11 anyway, > > then you wouldn't need to be running Wayland in the first place. > > That's a bit pessimistic: running Xwayland on top of Wayland does have > the advantage (compared to running Xorg directly) that both Wayland and > Xwayland are maintained. So in the not-too-distant-future it may be the > *only* way to go even if you use nothing else than X11 applications. > > [ IIUC, Xwayland has some significant shortcomings, but I can't > remember what they are. For now, I'm blissfully running Xorg as if > it'll be with us for another 30 years, keeping my head firmly in the > sand, even tho most of my machines require an `xorg.conf` to turn off > UseGammaLUT otherwise the system freezes at startup, and there's no > movement on the corresponding Debian bug. 🙁 ] > > > Stefan > >