On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 03:14:01PM +1000, Anthony Thyssen wrote:
> After more than a year of problem, I have been able to finally track
> down a startup fault with using gnome-session and CTWM.
>
> I launch ctwm and after setting up my initial XTerms I then launch
> "gnome-session". Quite offen many applets fail to start, and gnome
> takes forever to initialize all its clients.
>
> The problem however was not with CTWM as I initially thought but with
> an old gconfd-2 still running fram the previous session.
>
> As such when finished with a ctwm-gnome login session, you best ensure
> that gconfd-2 is manually killed.
>
>
> Other details...
> * To stop nautilus from creating a desktop window (so CTWM menus still
> work) use this, once only...
>
> gconftool-2 -s -t bool /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false
>
> * Remove the Gnome 'workspace' applet as it is not usable
>
> * In Ctwmrc file...
> NoTitle { "Gnome-panel" "desktop_window" }
> NoBorder { "Gnome-panel" "desktop_window" }
> IconMenuDontShow { "Gnome-panel" "desktop_window" }
> Also set BorderTop/Left/Right/Bottom as appropriate
>
> The only problem I have let is knowing when gnome-session is finished
> setting up its stuff so I can reset the display background how I want it
> and not how gnome wants it.
>
> I like to thank the hordes of people (NOT) who helped me figure this out.
>
> PS: Debugging gnome without being a gnome developer is a Bloody Pain,
> pardon my Australian!!!
Now this is truly EXCITING news. Would it be possible for you
to create a sh script to do what you've described? --Also,
what/where is the Gnome workspace utility (applet)? Code? a
script? how to remove? Maybe fork your work into a ctwm-gnome2
port?
I've begun using both Gnome and KDE on my newer PC's, but
seriously like Ctwm because of its flexibility and simplicity.
Fr example, I can have 8 or ten workspaces with titles and
mouseclick to any of them to select out my chores: "System
Maint", "Mail", "Browsers", "Writing", "Programming", plus a
couple to monitor my network of five computers. And each time I
reboot, all my xterms (and apps) are in their proper
workspaces. Doing this with Gnome is still a mystery... .
One think that I dislike about Gnome/KDE is that they've silenced
them BEL ('\007') that sounds in vi/nvi/vim...
Congrats in any event:: maybe Ctwm will be around for 4.x ....
gary
>
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