Joao Barros wrote:
On 10/15/07, Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Alexander Leidinger wrote:
Quoting Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Sun, 14 Oct 2007
17:54:21 +0000):
My only beef is with the architecture of the sensors framework, and
as a consequence thereof, with the actual code as well.
When I asked you about a proposal how a better architecture looks like,
you didn't came up with an explanation and you didn't came up with a
list of things which you think are bad in the sensors framework. You
also didn't respond to counterarguments from me.
I don't think it is fair to make such a noise, without coming up with
technical facts.
Note: I don't object to backing out the commit. But as this seems to be
on the desk of core@, I wait for their decision regarding this (as it is
self contained and doesn't interfere with other stuff, we don't need to
hurry).
In OpenBSD the sensors framework has already turned into a dumping
ground, and I have all reason to belive that we will see the same
under FreeBSD.
It will be what we make out of this.
See for instance Marc Balmers presentation from EuroBSDcon2007 about
putting radio-timecode receivers under the sensors framework, or
I don't see a need to port this part instead of using the existing
time-infrastructure in our kernel (and I don't have my fingers in the
time related code at all like you, so I hope other people think similar).
listen to the various mumblings about putting RAID-controller status
under sensors framework.
What's wrong with this? Currently each RAID driver has to come up with
his own way of displaying the RAID status. It's like saying that each
network driver has to implement/display the stuff you can see with
ifconfig in its own way, instead of using the proper network driver
interface for this.
For the love of God, please don't use RAID as an example to support your
argument for the sensord framework. Representing RAID state is several
orders of magnitude more involved than representing network state.
There are also landmines in the OpenBSD bits of RAID support that are
best left out of FreeBSD, unless you like alienating vendors and risking
legal action. Leave it alone. Please. I don't care what you do with
lmsensors or cpu power settings or whatever. Leave RAID out of it.
Thanks,
Scott
Are you saying I shouldn't proceed with the bio port?
As has been discussed in various forums recently, this OpenBSD sensors
stuff has been proceeding with little developer buy-in or discussion,
and the developer input that has happened has largely been ignored. So
with that said, let's all turn over a new leaf and get this process back
on track. What exactly is the "bio port"? What does it do, what areas
of the kernel and userland does it involve, what does it change, why is
it a good idea?
Scott
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