On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Robert Citek <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Scott Granneman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> And did you see what Facebook & Microsoft announced yesterday? Whoa.
>> That's got the potential to be HUGE and drive many many more users to
>> the cloud.
>
> Possibly, which is what FB and MS are hoping for.
>
> In full disclosure, I'm not a big FB fan.  I use it because for some
> things it is useful.  But I actually find it a bit of a disorganized
> mess.  For example, there's no obvious way to filter, search, tag, or
> organize posts as it's not really a blog and not accessible via any
> search engine.  Now they've added Docs.  For me that's not even a
> little plus.  I currently have in excess of 100+ documents (ods, doc,
> xls, odt, ppt, opp, etc.) locally.  I'm trying to imagine what having
> 100+ documents on Facebook would look like.  Yes, it's huge -- a huge
> mess.

Actually - as I understand it, which sure could be wrong - the docs
are ACTUALLY stored on Microsoft's SkyDrive, which is a pretty nice
cloud-based storage site, with folders, etc. So they'd actually be
there, and you'd share the docs with people on Facebook to distribute
them for collaboration. But again, I could be wrong - but I think I'm
right. That surely helps alleviate a lot of the mess.

>> You can keep fighting the battles of the past, or you can figure out
>> how to embrace the future & make it as good as possible.
>
> The problem with the future is that it isn't evenly distributed.

Very true!

> The
> future is a small niche for the early adopters.  There is a huge
> segment of the populace that isn't there, yet.  There are still a lot
> of dinosaurs, e.g. buying/selling a house is still mostly done with
> physical paper.

But that will change, as so much already has.

10 years ago, would we be facing the collapse of the newspaper
industry? & now the thought that news is going to be online primarily
is no big deal to most users. Same thing for books, etc.

> As for reading and creating ODF files, OOo is just one of many
> options.  If you can't open it with MS Office and can't install OOo,
> then go the cloud route with Google docs, which reads/writes ODF, MS
> Office, RTF, HTML, and text.  So there really isn't a need for an ODF
> plug-in for MS Office.  If Oracle can get away with charging $90 for
> it, good for them.  If the plug-in dies a market death, no big loss.

$90 seems quite excessive & greedy to me, so I hope it dies.

> BTW, I don't see the future as all in the cloud.  We've been there
> before with mainframes, where all the computation and data was
> "somewhere else."  Then came the PCs.  And people really like the idea
> of being able to do things quickly and having control over their own
> data, locally.  Then came the Internet followed by cloud services.
> Now we are going back to the model of computation and data being
> "somewhere else."  That's fine and dandy until you realize that you
> don't have as much control as you might like and you don't always have
> that network connection.  I suspect the future will be some
> combination: parts in the cloud (or likely, different clouds) and
> parts on my local device (or likely, different devices).  And when the
> data is local, I'll need to have that dinosaur app to work with the
> data.

I don't think it will TOTALLY be in the cloud (but who knows?), but a
lot will definitely be there. Now we have the Internet, which we
didn't have before, & we're getting closer all the time to ubiquitous
access. Apple's recent deal with AT&T re: iPad 3G access is a
harbinger of that. As for control, close to 100% of my students have
their email in the cloud, & they could care less about control,
because they have something far more important to them: access. In
fact, WU is moving ALL students over to Microsoft's hosted email this
year (which sucks, but oh well). Remember the old adage that when
given a choice between security and convenience, people pick
convenience every time? When given a choice between control and
access, they pick access, almost every time.

Scott
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