hay lee checkout www.quarks.co.uk/qks I hope our clan will kick your butt
:-)

next time I'm up your way I will come in and check it out, how's it going
anyway

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 October 2000 14:34
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Subject: RE: Re: [cc] Dial UP, ISDN, Satellite,....better access


When we get going scott, our counterstrike team ...will...ahem...destroy
you..
Cheers,
Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Carrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 October 2000 09:24
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Subject: RE: Re: [cc] Dial UP, ISDN, Satellite,....better access


have you researched LAN gaming over Internet gaming, I have 2 sites and 36
pc's all connected to the internet fr gaming.  there is not very much lan
gaming going on as people want to play different games

I will be interested to see how your goes

thanks

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Huerta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2000 22:19
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Subject: Re: Re: [cc] Dial UP, ISDN, Satellite,....better access


Hi Earl:

Thanks for your advice. Answering your questions, i am planning to 
offer in addtion a connecting to internet:
Gaming for LAN (not for Internet).
About videoconferencing, would be a service not common and then, is 
not a important factor to make a decision. 

Marco H.



De:"Earl J. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Enviado:Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:43:04 -0400
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Asunto:Re: [cc] Dial UP, ISDN, Satellite,....better access


At 10:44 AM 10/4/00 -0500, Marco Huerta wrote:
>Hi:
>
>What is the better connection for a Cybercafe between 6 or 10
>computers. In my country there isn't xDSL technology. 
>Avaiable are:
>Dial-Up
>ISDN
>Satellite (DirecPC)
>Microwave
>And DS0, T1....
>In my city Cablemodem and xDSL are not aviable yet.
>
>
>But for almost all technology the cost are high, and i need 
>a decent
>access but without working for TELCO.
>
>Any ideas:
>
>MARCO H.

Hi Marco,

 � � �While you told us the number of computers, you did not 
tells us what you are going to have those computers doing...

 � � �Gaming over the internet?
 � � �Gaming over a LAN?
 � � �Video chat/conferencing?

 � � �etc., etc.

 � � �Some brief comments:

>Dial-Up

 � � �Low cost - low bandwidth. �If you don't network (LAN) 
your computers together, each machine will need its own 
modem, and its own dial-up access. �You'll need to take 
steps to ensure that customers do not find out what your 
login names and passwords are for the dial-up accounts, or 
else you may find your dial-up access being usurped by 
others. �Millions of people play internet games via modem 
connections, so it can be considered 'adequate'... �but most 
of those millions wish they had higher bandwidth 
connections. �(To get lower latency)

>ISDN

 � � �Typically slightly more expensive than "dial-up" - 
better bandwidth. �Depending on what services you plan to 
offer, you could either have each machine have its own ISDN 
adapter and access account, or you could have your machines 
share 1, 2 or 3 ISDN access accounts over the LAN. �There 
are ISDN routers available to act as your LAN's interface to 
the internet.

>Satellite (DirecPC)

 � � �Typically more expensive yet - often even better 
bandwidth... �however, be careful. �There is more than one 
way to do satellite. �The original DirecPC arrangement was 
one way from the satellite to you, with a modem (dial-up) 
uplink back to the internet. �Two way satellite links have 
traditionally been VERY expensive. �It appears that is about 
to change. �I believe I have seen at least 2 offerings 
coming out (now, or soon) that use a slightly larger dish 
pointed at the same satellite used for the associated 
Satellite TV service to accomplish 2 way satellite 
connections. �I _think_ one was associated with 
DirecPC/DirecTV and the other was associated with The Dish 
Network. �There are other 2 way satellite offerings, but I 
believe they are priced a good bit higher. �In any case, 
they all have one problem if you are going to be doing 
internet gaming, or video conferencing.... �Latency. �The 
time it takes radio waves to travel from the earth, to the 
satellite, then back to the earth is a noticeable time 
lag. �If high bandwidth connections finally become available 
via low earth orbit satellites, it should reduce that 
latency considerably, but right now, AFAIK, any service 
currently available at a remotely affordable price is using 
geosynchronous orbit satellites (approx. 22,500 miles out, 
IIRC).

>Microwave

 � � �Wireless links of this sort can achieve very high 
bandwidth connections. �It could involve a significant 
initial outlay (radios, antennas and towers) depending on 
how your wireless ISP is willing to do things. �The beauty 
of such an arrangement is that you eliminate the recurring 
monthly charges for a T-1 (or whatever) trunk line. �[Your 
initial costs for the radio gear, etc. is typically recouped 
within 2 to 3 years due to the savings of not paying the 
telco for a trunk] �Microwave requires line of sight 
(LOS). �If you don't have LOS, you either need to go higher 
on the antenna towers to achieve it, or use multiple hops (= 
more radios, antennas & towers). �Depending of your area, 
you may be able to use unlicensed band equipment, or 
not. �Severe weather can interfere with connections too.

>And DS0, T1....

 � � �High bandwidth - High costs (typically). �Great for 
gaming, etc.

 � � �Good luck,

 � � �Earl
 � � � � � � � �



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