From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<Our record is very clean in comparison to the police, "bent coppers" are
more commonplace than "homicidal shooters" >
I have to dispute this one with you. OK, I have the benefit of inside
knowledge, but define the terms you have used and I challenge this
assertion. I will simply not let outrageous statements such as this go
unchallenged. This could be an unhealthy can of worms that you are opening
here.
<I do not doubt youre good intentions, but, this smacks of guilty
conscience, and that will not restore our sport. >
What on earth are you going on about? Why on earth should I have a guilty
conscience? What have I done to anybody apart from encourage the same things
as you!
<This sounds like a thinly veiled threat, are you about to turn into an
"anti" because so many are against a bad law? The operations of the ACPO
were not youre responsibility so why do you have a problem because youre
attempt to defend them is met with such hostility?>
Whew. Doesnt seem to be much I can say without paranoia setting in. Not much
point in continuing to post with attitudes like this. Show me where I have
tried to defend anything to do with the handgun ban or ACPO!
I have to say that there are some entrenched attitudes here. I don't have to
apologise for anything I have done. I have been branded worse than a
pickpocket here, merely because I dared to challenge some dogmatic views.
The thinly veiled comparison to Nazi concentration camp guards is probably
the worst. That it comes from people who have never met me and have
absolutely no idea of my religious background makes it even more worrying.
As 'Pendrous' correctly observes, a public display of such hatred and
hostility for the police does not do anyone any good, but please, I am NOT
an agent provocateur. You dont need an agent provocateur!
I feel responsible for unleashing this venom, so I will sign off now for the
sake of my sport. Personally, I am quite used to people having a go, after
all, I have been a police officer for over 25 years. However, to have such
attacks bordering on the personal come from people who are allegedly
enjoying the same sport as me is a bit disconcerting. To be told that I
should not air my views or opinions is frightening.
All I can say is that I have had my eyes opened!
Thanks to those subscribers who have displayed moderation and a willingness
to look at things from all angles.
Best of luck in your struggles.
Dave - chill out. No point in bursting blood vessels!
IG
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I did not compare with the concentration camps, I pointed out that
it is a well established point of law that you cannot simply say
"I was following orders", this as a result of the Nuremberg trials
which also involved the prosecution of various police officials
in the Nazi regime. The concentration camps were only part of
reason behind the prosecutions of war criminals.
You said that Parliament and the Home Office bear the responsibility,
not the police. That is incorrect. Everyone in the chain from
Parliament to the courts, including the police, bear the
responsibility for the enforcement of a law which is contrary
to the interests of the public whom they are supposed to serve
and protect.
The police actually do have a reputation of ignoring the more
silly provisions of law in this country, they have to, because
of the kneejerk nature of Parliament. The recent fiasco
with ACPO refusing to recommend zero tolerance enforcement of
the speed limit is a prime example. (Although they caved in).
Steve.
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