From:   "niel fagan", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>I can suggest a time as to when all this changed- after the
>Brixton riots in 1981-

Try after the violent suppression of the miners at around the same time, a 
family member was a senior officer in the field back then and from what he 
told me the biggest problem was the control of the uniformed mob. The first 
units had removed their ID numbers (don't know who I am so I can do what I 
like) and from then on no-one trusted them to use restraint, he had to force 
officers to replace their ID numbers on several occasions....The problems 
started before then in the minds of those who saw the police as a private 
army, for maggie or anyone else, but that capped it for a lot of people.

Yes they are supposed to be civilians, but as Nick points out they think 
they are something else....

Niel.
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I thought the Met still didn't have collar numbers?

Steve.


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