From: Dave Reay, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I hope Dave Reay is recovering form his burst blood
>vessels.
Sorry to dissallusion you but my blood vessels are not so easy to burst,
a 9mm might just do it but simple words have little effect. I will not
stand idly by while we as shooters are accused of things we have not
done, while those that were in a position to do something constructive
lay the blame at our door.
>Just to reassure him, I am an old time copper,
>having been one for 26 years. I have no intentions of
>handing back my medals and commendations, though. Who on
>earth is going to take any notice of that? I dont believe
>in futile actions and anyway, I earned them and my kids
>will get them in due course. The guys he knows that have
>thrown away or handed back their medals must be feeling
>pleased that they showed 'em alright! That was a high
>profile protest, wasn't it!
The point is that they did not give a flying f*** if anybody noticed
their protest, they were prepared to forego their childrens "Hero
worship" for the knowledge that they had done as much as they could to
show their disgust at the victimisation of a section of society that had
done no wrong. If we were black and had been victimised because a black
man had murdered 16 children and their teacher how would that hang with
you?
>I also lost my pistols after the '97 fiasco. I fully agree
>that the police are useless at licensing, and that the
>attitudes of some in the ranks are hostile towards shooters. I
>personally will stick up for any legitimate shooter except
>someone who wants a gun for self defence. The tone of Dave's
>venom filled missive seemed to suggest that you can't set
>foot out of your door without being faced by gangs of gun
>weilding lunatics or accosted on every corner by a
>paedophile, in between being snapped by police anti
>speeding cameras.
I am not the one that brought up the subject of having "panic alarms"
and other paraphinalia that can provide a plod squad faster than us mere
mortals can! I dont know where you live but I can assure you that in the
North East of England speed monitoring cameras are sprouting up faster
than weeds. If you find my "missive" venom filled, I would strongly
advise against pissing me off, I thought I was being fair and replying
to youre comments in a circumspect manner. You were being abusive to the
honest law abiding citizens that had once owned firearms and are now
prevented due to the incompetance or otherwise of the people that are
assigned the responsibility of protection of said people. The police
most certainly are guilty of persecuting handgun shooters, while showing
that they prefer paedophiles to handgun shooters. Do not piss down my
back and tell me it is raining! Their defence of paedophiles is
disgusting when compared to the support we received!
> Lets keep this in perspective please. I
>dont feel the need to have a firearm for protection at
>home. I dont know or associate with anyone who does. If
>anyone feels that strongly about it, then I feel very
>sorry for them. Their lives must be hell, and I mean that
>sincerely.
That goes against what you have infered, why have panic alarms unless
you feel threatened? If you are threatened then surely a firearm in the
hand beats a cop on the phone! What is youre problem with citizens
having guns for their protection? We have laws against murder and if a
person murders another then they will be found guilty in a court of Law
and will be sentenced accordingly.
>
>When I hear expressions such as 'The police are no more
>than an extended arm...etc', does the author mean the
>individuals who do the day to day work, or does he mean
>the senior ranks, or does he mean the politicians who
>make the law......what does he mean?
>If he means the rank and file, then get a life and also
>some treatment for the severe paranoia that is affecting
>you! I have nothing but contempt for attitudes such as
>yours. (It works both ways.)
The law was changed so that the monies gained from camera prosecutions
could be ploughed back into more cameras, this is a self perpetuating
system that persecutes the motorist. I find it a bit embarassing that I
have to draw this fact to the attention of a serving officer of 26
years.
>
>By the way, Jeff, I pay more towards my pension than
>you do, 11% of my wage to be exact, so dont come that
>old one. I also pay taxes, so I suppose I am paying
>twice. Funny, when you think about it. I am really
>paying my own wages. Aint that the damndest thing!
I have personal experience of how the plod try their damndest to get
"Invallided" out of the FORCE, with a bloody healthy pension! These
blokes would play volleyball with gusto, until the specialist arrived,
then they would limp in to be assessed by the specialist. The moans and
groans of those blokes was pathetic compared to the people with real
injuries. If anybodies interested, it was a rehab centre provided by the
Mineworkers Union, they were specialists in back injuries and provided
physiotherapy that enabled myself and many others to return to work as
viable, functional workers. They were flogging a dead horse with the
plod. I speak as I find, I am not some rampant Maggie hater or someone
that thinks the "Mineworkers" can do no wrong.
They did a bloody lot of good for me. The specialist could not even
guarantee that I would ever walk again!
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Dave Reay
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