From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The problem is many UK police do have problems hitting the
target at 10 yards as we have seen demonstarted several
times.
Also the carbine is a better intermediate weapon than the
shotgun with innocent bystanders around.
Well trained police marksmen with pistols can do the job
on routine patrol but as Jeff Cooper, Bill Jordan and
Massad Ayoob have all said in one form or another - when
deliberately going into an shooting situation one needs
to be well prepared, the carbine, rifle or shotgun in
addition to the pistol with heavier body armour and
specialist items as options.
Rather worrying that any of our police forces are sending
out police officers on patrol routinely armed. However,
it demonstartes how badly the situation has deteriorated
in some parts of the UK.
Regards
Jerry
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I've said it before, I'll say it again - if police officers
cannot hit the target at ten yards with a pistol, what makes
you think they can do it with an MP5?
I used to train security guards and a few cops in Florida,
the qualification course is the standard NRA one at 3, 7,
15 and 25 yards. It did take time to get them competent
at 25 but that IMO was a purely academic exercise to get
their certification.
Ten yards is virtually point-blank. It's the minimum
range allowed on most MoD approved ranges because it's
so close.
Plus, I point out that ACPO themselves currently say
that 70% of shots are misses at ranges out to ten yards,
presumably mostly with the MP5 already.
Teaching people how to clean their guns was more difficult
than how to hit the target at ten yards. I appreciate
under stress it is a lot more difficult, gross motor
movements and so on, but having an MP5 is no real
advantage at such close range IMO. (Other than you've
got more bullets). In fact I think it is more
difficult because you need more time to pick up the
sights and shoulder the gun.
On the subject of hostages, both West Mids shootings
have been the shooting of hostage takers, one with a
knife to the throat of a check-out girl in a supermarket,
the other with a gun to the head of his wife in
Kingstanding. The one in the supermarket was by an
officer armed with a _pistol_ not sure about the
one in Kingstanding.
Steve.
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